Windows Mount as System service

lemonka · January 25, 2022, 6:44pm

Team, I know this has been asked multiple times but I have not found any concret solution nor answer.

I have pCloud service (I believe issue is not relevant to storage provider) and im using nssm to create service:

nssm stop rclone2
nssm remove rclone2 confirm
nssm install rclone2 c:\rclone\rclone.exe 
nssm set rclone2 AppParameters mount pcloud:/ X: --config rclone.conf --cache-dir .\cache\ --volname pCloud --dir-perms=0777 --file-perms=0777 --vfs-cache-mode full -o --uid=65972  --default-permissions
nssm set rclone2 AppDirectory C:\rclone\
nssm set rclone2 AppStdout C:\rclone\rclone.log
nssm set rclone2 AppStderr C:\rclone\rclone.log
nssm set rclone2 AppStopMethodSkip 6
nssm set rclone2 AppStopMethodConsole 1000
nssm set rclone2 AppThrottle 5000
nssm start rclone2

What works: create/delete/rename file/folder
What does not work: modify/update existing files

Of course all issues are gone if I will mount pCloud as current user and use as current user. If I will switch account to other one drive is no longer visible.

Is there a way to get fully functional drive/netdrive available to all logged users at once?

asdffdsa · January 25, 2022, 7:27pm

if you run rclone mount as system user, then all users should see it.

lemonka · January 25, 2022, 7:36pm

If rclone is mounting as SYSTEM then all users are seeing it, but:

What works: create/delete/rename file/folder
What does not work: modify/update existing files

asdffdsa · January 25, 2022, 8:11pm

ok, i re-read your post. looking into it.

--default-permissions - not supported on windows.

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 8:59am

I have solved this other way. I believe this has something related to WIndows permissions it self and Im not specialist but I have doubts it can be solved as a service at all.

I in a wider context - I wantned to automate mounting my pCloud system wide for all users but as I said - moutnting it with SYSTEM user have some drawbacks. That is why I have created task in windows scheduler who runs commnad to mount for each user after logon. I have nearly completed all steps to automate it with usage of Ansible including downloaoding rclone itself.

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 12:23pm

might run one instance of rclone serve webdav and for each user do a map drive.

Krakkan · January 27, 2022, 5:42pm

Why doesn't it work to modify/update existing files? Is that a limitation of rclone or winfsp?

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 5:52pm

once finished and tested, would be helpful to post it.

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 6:34pm

I have no idea - this is my second attempt to rclone on windows. I believe that at the first time I have read about some limitations with SYSTEM user but this time I have not found it - just faced it. Maybe its something worng with my solution - I have no idea.

Do You have this setup (system wide mount) working correctly?

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 6:38pm

rclone.txt (3.3 KB)

This is my solution to deploy rclone on WIndows hosts in unattended way with usage of Ansible.

This file is a playbook and should have yaml extention.

Important thing - Im not experienced Ansible user so this for sure could be done better/safer/easier but it works

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 6:41pm

have you considered my idea of running a single instance of rclone serve webdav
and
windows map drive per user.

in this way, only needing a single vfs file cache for all users.

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 6:46pm

Im also not experienced rclone user - As soon as I will unserstood what exacly this means I will be able to comment on this

Yesterday evening I was "mastering" Ansible solution - hopefully today I will test Your proposed solution

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 7:12pm

rclone serve webav remote:emulates a webdav server
and windows operating system itself can mount a webdav server as local storage.

DEBUG : rclone: Version "v1.57.0" starting with parameters ["c:\\data\\rclone\\scripts\\rclone.exe" "serve" "webdav" "wasabi01:zork" "--vfs-cache-mode=full" "--file-perms=0777" "--dir-cache-time=1m" "--vfs-cache-poll-interval=1m" "--vfs-cache-max-age=1m" "--cache-dir=D:\\rclone\\cache\\zork" "--log-file=.\\log.serve.webdav.zork.txt" "--log-level=DEBUG" "--log-file=.\\log.serve.webdav.zork.txt" "--log-level=DEBUG"]
DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "wasabi01:zork"
DEBUG : Using config file from "c:\\data\\rclone\\scripts\\rclone.conf"
INFO  : S3 bucket zork: poll-interval is not supported by this remote
DEBUG : vfs cache: root is "D:\\rclone\\cache\\zork"
DEBUG : vfs cache: data root is "\\\\?\\D:\\rclone\\cache\\zork\\vfs\\wasabi01\\zork"
DEBUG : vfs cache: metadata root is "\\\\?\\D:\\rclone\\cache\\zork\\vfsMeta\\wasabi01\\zork"
DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "D:/rclone/cache/zork/vfs/wasabi01/zork"
DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "D:/rclone/cache/zork/vfs/wasabi01/zork" to be canonical "//?/D:/rclone/cache/zork/vfs/wasabi01/zork"
DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "D:/rclone/cache/zork/vfsMeta/wasabi01/zork"
DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "D:/rclone/cache/zork/vfsMeta/wasabi01/zork" to be canonical "//?/D:/rclone/cache/zork/vfsMeta/wasabi01/zork"
INFO  : vfs cache: cleaned: objects 0 (was 0) in use 0, to upload 0, uploading 0, total size 0 (was 0)
NOTICE: S3 bucket zork: WebDav Server started on http://localhost:8080/

rclone ls wasabi01:zork
       28 file.txt

net use z: \\localhost@8080\davwwwroot
The command completed successfully.

dir z:
 Volume in drive Z has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 0000-0000

 Directory of Z:\

01/27/2022  02:08 PM    <DIR>          .
01/27/2022  02:08 PM    <DIR>          ..
01/27/2022  02:09 PM                28 file.txt
               1 File(s)             28 bytes
               2 Dir(s)  57,925,574,656 bytes free

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 7:58pm

Tested Your solution.

Permissions works fine when using SYSTEM user for system wide mounting
Despite using cache and --vfs-cache-mode full I cannot watch movies which are approx >50MB (?)

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 8:13pm

This will be sligthly off topic but I have noticed

2022/01/27 21:08:55 INFO  : vfs cache: cleaned: objects 79 (was 79) in use 0, to upload 0, uploading 0, total size 191.197Mi (was 191.197Mi)

and with usage of

"--log-file=.\\log.serve.webdav.zork.txt" "--log-level=DEBUG"

It should be quite easy to write some sort of monitoring tool to read last log line with "INFO" and parse it and display red/green icon in toolbar. This should be easy with .NET ( again - Im not a programer but I wrote some small tool in this ages ago and maybe I will try to it again)

and if we could tune frequency of this update would be splendid and would answer my other question on this forum -> How do I know when file trasfers are completed - #2 by asdffdsa

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 8:17pm

yes, that i what i expected, and nice to need only one rclone cache for all users.

cannot see into your computer screen.
need to see a full rclone debug log, or at a minimum, the top 30 lines.
and you need to look into the debug log for errors and messages pertaining to the exact file that failed to play.

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 8:20pm

yes, off topic,

i think i answered your other question in that other topic.
if not, then best to post there.

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 8:30pm

failed.txt (64.0 KB)
working.txt (659.0 KB)

I have run mounting twice to separate runs of failed and working playback

asdffdsa · January 27, 2022, 9:06pm

nothing to do with rclone.

edit registry entry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WebClient\Parameters\FileSizeLimitInBytes

from default value of 50000000 which is 50MB
up to the largest value for a 32-bit integer 2147483647

restart webdav service.

lemonka · January 27, 2022, 9:25pm

It did the trick but some other limitation occured When I play 1.5GB file it downloads it fully first (maybe its the way Windows Webclient works?). I have changed --vfs-cache-mode=writes but it didnt changed behaviour.

Thank You for Your time and support Maybe I will spent some time still today to check if mentioned offtopic is in my range.