Rclone stopped working

It has limits but that's not why must people on gdrive set that high. It's because gdrive has a change tracking mechanism that notifies rclone to drop the cache for that particular folder/file(s) when things change. So there's not a good reason to keep it lower.

good to know, thanks

So this reared it's ugly head again. Possibly a different issue, but I hadn't changed anything on my end.

Last night I was watching a movie that was hosted on GDrive. It just stopped, period about 20 minutes in. Rebooting the server...twice, the Firecube or even trying the movie/file on my desktop PC in PMP didn't allow it to play. I'll get the dreaded "not powerful enough". I even tried it in VLC directly on my server that rclone is running on and it says "your input can't be opened".

However, Plex, VLC anything else I try to run works perfectly fine using local files so it's something to do with my mount. Again, I hadn't changed anything in weeks. It has been running OK using task scheduler. Not as reliable as NSSM, but simpler too. An occasional task restart or Plex server restart and it would take off again.

So this morning I tried to update rclone from 1.52 to 1.52.1 as well as the latest version of WinFSP. I was one version behind on that.

Rebooted. Still won't work. The drive letter mounts and I can see the files, but I can play them, even on that local machine use a standalone video player lik eVLC, MPV or Windows Movies etc. It's like the mount has a TOC, but no actual access to the files themselves.

Anybody seen this before or have any ideas? My command line is this:

mount --rc --dir-cache-time 72h --drive-chunk-size 64M --log-level DEBUG --vfs-read-chunk-size 32M --vfs-read-chunk-size-limit off gdrive: Z: --config "C:\Users\flkar\.config\rclone\rclone.conf" --vfs-cache-mode writes --log-file=C:\rclone\rclonemount.txt

The only mod I have made to this since the problem started was to change my cache time back to 72hr when it was 1hr. It had been running like that for weeks without issue though so I don't know what happened last night to cause this problem.

I also just noticed I still have the logging level set to "DEBUG". I just changed that to "NOTICE" but the drive still doesn't work.

If I look at my Google Console the only thing that seems odd is my errors by drive.files.get:


I will admit that this showing the initial spike about 9PM last night is about the exact time it just "stopped" working for seemingly no reason. I'm not going to pretend to understand exactly what that means, but I didn't come close to hitting my quotas.

Any idea what can cause these errors? is it something wrong with my command line for example?

Appreciate the help!

[quote="asdffdsa, post:8, topic:16313"]
i am confused, you wrote that you already updated to the latest stable, which is v1.6.20027.
so which version of winfsp are you using, some kind of beta?
not good to use beta software when there is no need for it.[/quote]
No sir. I didn't say what version I was running. However, I went from v1.7.20123 to v1.7.20172. I got them from here:

Best I can tell that is the stable. It was released 21 hours ago.

Not sure what you mean by that. The only thing I set up is what was in that command line above. It does have several cache-related parameters in it. Is that what you are referring to?

not vfs cache flags, but the cache backend remote, which reddit loves for some reason.

when streaming media, i always mount as --read-only

are you still running two mounts at the same time?

have you excluded the z: from anti-virus scanner, including the built-in windows.

I have no idea. If it was something that I would have had to set up it would be in the command line wouldn't it? AFAIK, that is the only place I have ever configured parameters unless there was something in the NSSM setup that I'm not using anymore and don't recall.

Can I simply add the "--read-only" flag to the command line to make it read only? That's easy stuff. lol

Not sure what you mean by this. I am running one instance of rclone and one instance of Drive Fielstream. The Filestream mount works flawlessly. I can even play the files that won't play in Plex from the rclone mount.

My practice is that I usually upload new files to the drive via Filestream, but only play them via the rclone mount. My drive letter is mapped that way for the purposes of Plex. I do occasionally upload something through my rclone mount drive and did in fact do that last night with a couple files, but didn't know that/if it is an issue to do that if Filestream is running.

The only reason I ever upload that way is because if I look at the drive capacity via Filestream, it shows 10TB total. if I look at the drive mounted by rclone it shows 1PB. I don't know if it's true, but it's acting like I'm "filling up" the drive when using Filestream as it shows it about half full now even though my actual space is unlimited..

I have not manually done that, but it's a good point! I use Windows Defender and frankly, I've never tried, therefore, don't know how to exclude drives. I will look at that now!

Update, I just excluded both the Filestream drive and the rclone mount drive letters from my virus scans.

about that spike,
did filestream do that?
did rclone do that?

How would I know that for sure? I am looking at the stats and I filtered it JUST for the OAuth client which I presume is my rclone instance. That is where the spike still shows up.

i do not use gdrive much but you can create multiple client ids.

Is that version of WinFSP the current one as it appeared to be? Is that first one actually a beta? It had blue badge on it and wasn't labeled beta.

about the version of winfsp, i see that the latest stable is now 1.7, and that happened a few hours ago.
so sorry about that confusion.

why is that a problem?
that is a quirk of rclone

are you having a problem uploading using rclone mount?

Not a complaint. I'm not concerned about the 1PT, rclone limit. I'm worried about the 10TB Filestream limit! lol

Don't know if there are chronic issues. I don't usually use it for uploading because Filstream just seems to be more responsive and I have a little icon that tells me the progress of any uploads.....:wink:

I never considered a correlation before, but last night I did try rclone mount (as well as Filestream) to upload and it hosed. Could be a complete coincidence. Don't know.

we are spending a lot of time because you want to use two different tools, at the same time, to mount your gdrive.
and the reason for not using rclone for uploads is lack of a progress indicator?

you are using --rc, should you should be able to see what is going on, using a web browser.
or use

i do not believe in coincidences

First of all I appreciate your time! I know you have helped a lot on this thread, thank you!

However, I'm not sure I would characterize it that way....spending a lot of time because I want a progress indicator. To me, what I'm spending a lot of time for is because rclone isn't working. If the fact I'm running Filestream is the cause of that problem then please say so! That is the first time running both has ever come up as an issue at all in this thread.

I looked at RcloneBrowser when I first tried rclone (as per that Reddit thread) but I never could get it working properly. I'll take a look at it again!

running two different tools to the same gdrive at the same time, is going to be a problem i cannot figure out. not sure how anyone can do that.

so i will drop off this post. good luck.

I wish you had mentioned in the beginning of the thread. I have been running them in parallel for literally 6 months. I haven't had that many issues, but today it's been 20 hours without the rclone mount working at all. Just now I closed the Filestream instance and magically the rclone mount started working!!!

How this could have been working all along, but now they won't run together, I have no idea, but I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth!

RCloneBrowser installs fine and I can start the program, but it doesn't see any mounts and if I click on "Config" I can see a window try to flash open, but it doesn't stay open. It doesn't do anything for me at this point. I will mess with that and check the docs over there better.

I would LOVE to have a single solution and not have two GDrive clients running, but frankly, when I started down the rclone journey it was because I was told that Filestream can't handle the calls and bandwidth it takes to run a Plex server from it. I found that Reddit thread which gave you step by step instructions for rclone (albeit old versions), but didn't really explain how any of it worked. I had someone over trying to help me, but they didn't understand it either. They just said it worked for them so they couldn't help me troubleshoot. I was running all the programs (rclone and browser) from the same directory in the root of C. The version of Browser you pointed me to goes to the program files directory. I need to parse how all of that interacts to try to get it to work.

Thank you again for the help! I wasn't trying to argue about any of this. I simply had no idea that it was bad practice to run rclone side by side with Filestream!

Have a good night sir!

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