Non Gdrive for backup

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#1

Just wondering if anyone is backing up their Gdrive to another unlimited cloud option that isn't insanely priced? Preferably one that can be used to stream Plex like Gdrive? I'm currently paying for 5 Gsuite users to make sure I meet their ToS so anything around $60/mo or less would be ok. Just looking to have my data in more then one place, 99% of streaming would likely occur from the Gdrive.

I've seen people mention Mega(.nz) and Dropbox business accounts? Not sure what the pros/cons are between those? Or if they're able to be used to stream Plex. Do they have any sort of limits imposed? There any other alternatives that I haven't seen mentioned?

#2

Possible candidates for unlimited drives (+issues):
(assuming 1,000 TB of data with 30 TB /month streamed and 5 TB/month uploaded)

  • Google workspace - (expected to be limited soon. storage increases by request only)
  • Mega.nz - (Account sometimes gets locked when doing continuous hits. Download speeds vary and can drop to 150KB)
  • Box.com (Limited API hits of max 100k per month)
  • Backblaze B2 - (Costs $5,500/month)
  • Amazon S3 - ( $20k/month) - [some discounts due to bulk pricing]
  • Azure - ( $20k/month)
  • Dropbox.com - (storage increases by request only)
  • Opendrive - ("Mass storage of media libraries and NAS/SAN devices not permitted on this plan")
  • Citrix Sharefile - (Has bandwidth limits in uploads and downloads, but amount is not specified in any documentation)

Note: This has been copied from reddit and various discord servers and hasn't been tested by me personally.

#3

I currently have about 180TB on the Gdrive, uploading ~10-15TB/mo right now but I expect that to slow soon. Streaming 30TB/mo sounds about right maybe a a little high.

So it sounds like the only reasonably priced options are Mega.nz and Dropbox business. Dropbox shows the Team Advanced (minimum $75/mo for 3 users) is as much space as your team needs? Is that not unlimited? How are they on API hits for streaming?

#4

The point of the above post was to point out that there are no viable alternatives right now (not even close).

Mega.nz doesn't have any open-source golang library for integration so the current integration rclone has is based on reverse-engineering the C++ library available. That has had various problems in the past. Other than that, the major problem is that mega frequently locks your account for high bandwidth or storage usage and that can sometimes take up to 2 weeks to get your access back.

Dropbox has some pre-defined limit (which keeps on changing), beyond which any storage increases need to be requested via a support ticket a few TB at a time which can take up to 3-4 days to get resolved and there is no guarantee that they will even approve the request.

#5

Dropbox has some pre-defined limit (which keeps on changing), beyond which any storage increases need to be requested via a support ticket a few TB at a time which can take up to 3-4 days to get resolved and there is no guarantee that they will even approve the request.

It appears they've automated it now? I'm currently testing out DB Business Advanced. You start with 5 licenses and 5TB. I added 20 licenses to the test and my storage increased to 20TB. I'll convert it to a paid account once I get my gdrive contents up there and move the licenses back down to 3 and see what happens.

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#6

Try it out and let us know then. I really doubt Dropbox can support that kind of storage for 75$ if Google couldn't do it with the way they burn cash.

#7

Well for everyone who has 26T up there, there's another business who has 1 or 2T. It probably averages out.

John

#8

Everyone thought the same for Google Drive and we are now at the point of that going away too. Dropbox can't afford to spend that amount of cash if it wants to continue to stay profitable.

Anyway, this is going off-topic now since your question seems to be answered so I will stop here.

#9

Curious how it works out and what kind of time frame you have before you have to pay for the licenses. I have 160+ TB on my Gdrive so if I have to pay for 160+ licenses until I get all of my data uploaded that would be expensive.

#10

Curious how it works out and what kind of time frame you have before you have to pay for the licenses. I have 160+ TB on my Gdrive so if I have to pay for 160+ licenses until I get all of my data uploaded that would be expensive.

I rented an unmetered vps from black.host to transfer the files from grive to dropbox. 14TB is looking to take about 4 days to transfer. DB gives you a 30 day trail.
I had set my DB licenses to 500 - that's the max you can do from the web ui. My mounted rclone share showed 500T. While in the middle of my mass copy I lowered it back down to 3 license and rclone complained about a lack of space in the destination. I changed licenses back to 500 and rclone was happy again. So it does look like the DB space allocation isn't based on human intervention. Remains to be seen what happens when I'm done with my copy (26T) and I go in for a month @ 3 users.

John

#11

Please report back once you drop it back down as I'd like to have a backup of my Gdrive somewhere just in case.