Error renaming partial file if its file already exists on remote

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What is the problem you are having with rclone?

Whenver I copy/sync an existing file, I get a 553 rename error for that file

I have tried 4 different Android FTP servers and this issue occurs with all of them

Run the command 'rclone version' and share the full output of the command.

rclone v1.71.1
- os/version: debian 13.1 (64 bit)
- os/kernel: 6.12.48+deb13-amd64 (x86_64)
- os/type: linux
- os/arch: amd64
- go/version: go1.25.1
- go/linking: static
- go/tags: none

Which cloud storage system are you using? (eg Google Drive)

FTP server on Android

The command you were trying to run (eg rclone copy /tmp remote:tmp)

rclone copy local:/tmp/test.png phone:/tmp

The rclone config contents with secrets removed.

[phone]
type = ftp
host = 192.168.1.8
user = <HIDE>
port = 2121
pass = <HIDE>

[local]
type = local

A log from the command with the -vv flag

2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : rclone: Version "v1.71.1" starting with parameters ["rclone" "copy" "local:/tmp/test.png" "phone:/tmp" "-vv"]
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "local:/tmp/test.png"
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : Using config file from "/home/user/.config/rclone/rclone.conf"
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : fs cache: renaming child cache item "local:/tmp/test.png" to be canonical for parent "/tmp"
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "phone:/tmp"
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: Connecting to FTP server
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: dial("tcp","192.168.1.8:2121")
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: > dial: conn=192.168.1.5:58526->192.168.1.8:2121, err=<nil>
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : test.png: Sizes differ (src 68 vs dst 75)
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: dial("tcp","192.168.1.8:43411")
2025/09/28 00:52:22 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: > dial: conn=192.168.1.5:34756->192.168.1.8:43411, err=<nil>
2025/09/28 00:52:22 ERROR : test.png.4bd48363.partial: partial file rename failed: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
2025/09/28 00:52:22 INFO  : test.png.4bd48363.partial: Removing failed copy
2025/09/28 00:52:23 ERROR : Attempt 1/3 failed with 1 errors and: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : test.png: Sizes differ (src 68 vs dst 75)
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: dial("tcp","192.168.1.8:42711")
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: > dial: conn=192.168.1.5:45918->192.168.1.8:42711, err=<nil>
2025/09/28 00:52:23 ERROR : test.png.4bd48363.partial: partial file rename failed: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
2025/09/28 00:52:23 INFO  : test.png.4bd48363.partial: Removing failed copy
2025/09/28 00:52:23 ERROR : Attempt 2/3 failed with 1 errors and: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : test.png: Sizes differ (src 68 vs dst 75)
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: dial("tcp","192.168.1.8:33429")
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: > dial: conn=192.168.1.5:42416->192.168.1.8:33429, err=<nil>
2025/09/28 00:52:23 ERROR : test.png.4bd48363.partial: partial file rename failed: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
2025/09/28 00:52:23 INFO  : test.png.4bd48363.partial: Removing failed copy
2025/09/28 00:52:23 ERROR : Attempt 3/3 failed with 1 errors and: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
2025/09/28 00:52:23 INFO  : 
Transferred:            204 B / 204 B, 100%, 0 B/s, ETA -
Errors:                 1 (retrying may help)
Elapsed time:         1.0s

2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : 4 go routines active
2025/09/28 00:52:23 DEBUG : ftp://192.168.1.8:2121/tmp: closing 1 unused connections
2025/09/28 00:52:23 NOTICE: Failed to copy: Move Rename failed: 553 Can't rename file.
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welcome to the forum,

try --inplace to prevent rclone from renaming the file.

and to keep the logs small, use --retries=1

fwiw, will get much better results using sftp server

on android, i run rclone inside termux
and rclone can emulate servers such as rclone serve ftp, rclone serve sftp

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I read that --inplace can cause data loss if file was modified while it was syncing, I don't understand how this exactly happens though

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really, please share the topic??

if the contents of a source file changes whilst copying it, that would lead to data loss.
that applies to most any copy tools.

whereas, --inplace applies after the file copy operation has completed.

on windows, the workaround is to create a VSS snapshot and use that as the source.
that is what i do.

i have a handy, dandy howto guide
https://forum.rclone.org/t/how-to-enable-vss-for-rclone-on-windows/11675

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https://rclone.org/bisync/#concurrent-modifications

There is also another scenario I'm thinking about, if I loaded a file in a text editor on remote location before syncing and I saved it unknowingly during syncing, will that saved data get overwritten since the file hasn't yet been fully written by the FTP client?

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ok, well, the debug log you posted it for copy, not bisync

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You are right, it seems I have diverged the original conversation against --inplace since my goal is bisync

But I wanted to know if there's with my rclone setup or command that made renaming files in FTP not working so that I can use it without --inplace

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what other ftp clients have you tested, where the issue does not occur.

then run rclone bisync and see what happens.

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I have tested 4 different apps and faced this with all of them, I will try rclone on Termux

I have same issue with any rclone command where a file is to be updated on remote, so that's why I demonstrated it with copy

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i wrote a howto guide about that.

Rclone on termux - Turn your android phone into a media server

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Thanks! I didn't think of trying FTP on Termux, I used termux-setup-storage and tested FTP server, it seems to work well without --inplace (it doesn't support modtimes though)

It seems, weird enough, that many FTP servers on Android don't support renaming to replace existing files

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fwiw, use rclone serve sftp, as that supports modtime and file transfer verification using checksums.

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Nice! I originally wanted SFTP but didn't find apps for that

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actually, with termux, i do not use rclone serve sftp.

i prefer a simpler solution.
Package OpenSSH provides a tool for accessing remote hosts over SFTP

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You may want to read

in short it seems to be (to me) android file management issue, given you tried multiple ftp clients servers on android.

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