Enter Space - Rclone File Provider for iOS and macOS

If the only ui interactions you need are file browsing/operations from within the main app, or finder/files apps (assuming the actions don’t use too much memory/ram in files app on iOS) and you don’t need to edit/configure remotes using the ui outside of editing the rclone.conf in the built in code editor, then what your asking for should already work. It is not officially supported, but again may just work.

To edit the underlying rclone.conf its under the local tab > App Documents > (use context menu) Edit Text > make any changes to the rclone.conf file in the built in code editor > Save > the app will use the supplied rclone.conf content or it may fail to load it up to 3 times before moving it to a _backup version and setting up a blank rclone.conf for you to recover manually or fully with the context menu of “Restore …”

It is very much an advanced feature that is already implemented as safely as possible. I don’t plan to fix issues surrounding tier 4-5 remotes at this time, but if you try it out and it does not work still email me so I can be sure it’s not some side effect not just related to the tier 4-5 remotes.

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I took a look at your app. Very promising. I use CloudMounter, but would like to move to something better. I am primarily interested in MacOS. Can you please offer a 7-day trial as many apps do? I can’t justify $30 without testing it to make sure it meets my needs. Could you offer me some way to test the app?

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Hello,

Thanks for writing in.

I do not have any plans to add support for a trial on any of the supported platforms of Enter Space.

That one time purchase unlocks the app for any of your iPhones, iPads, Mac's, and even Apple TV’s.

There are no subscriptions.

If there is a bug in the app you can always email me and I will do my best to fix it quickly.

I use the Enter Space app daily and so I'm quick to pick up on areas of improvement I make in the next version.

Thanks. As a personal choice, I don’t buy anything I can’t try first. Many of the things I do try, I end up buying though.

Hello everyone! A couple announcements:

  • The app was recently updated to accommodate remotes that need additional configuration when adding it via the app. This expands the fixes from One Drive to be a more generic and reusable solution to accommodate Jottacloud and others.
  • That same recent update also provided an alternative oauth implementation for Box accounts that should work better with SSO providers.
  • A future update is going through App Review that adds support for managing rclone serves for WebDAV, FTP and more directly from within Enter Space.
  • Pending Apple Approval the app can communicate with a helper app to automatically mount WebDAV or FTP serves and keep them mounted for you so for users who need to access files as if they were a drive plugged into the Mac this update should facilitate that requirement until FSKit is ready for Network Filesystems.
  • The Enter Space webpage on my portfolio at https://wemiller.com/apps/enter-space/ has been updated with a comparison chart and greatly expanded FAQ that addresses a lot of the questions you have asked here.
  • I’d really like to build a “Testimonial” section with callouts from users that really enjoy using Enter Space so if you are one of those people and would like your name and brief callout shown on the Enter Space webpage please send me an email at enter-space@wemiller.com with your brief callout, the name you want to go by (first,last is preferred but initials work too) and if you are using Enter Space as part of your work and don’t mind sharing the company you use it for Id love to eventually have a branded callout section. I don’t collect any of that data so it is completely opt in with whatever your comfortable with sharing as I value everyone’s privacy and don’t want to share things that don’t truly reflect your choices. Again this is for people who truly enjoy Enter Space!
  • As always if you have any questions or issues please email me at the same email so I can address them on a case by case basis.

Thanks everyone for your support and I am really liking everything that has been built out in Enter Space! Your ideas and questions have driven the app to be a truly Universal tool!

I've noticed a rare but reoccurring pattern of people buying Enter Space and requesting a refund without any indication or contact for me to address their issues or concerns. So with that, I have made the difficult decision to adopt the pricing model I least like myself but industry has mostly adopted already. Effective immediately Enter Space now operates on a subscription model that offers a 7 day free trial for both mobile and yearly pricing. For now, I am keeping a more expensive lifetime option available for people who don’t like subscriptions like myself.

To all existing owners of any version before the current v4.0.0 version of enter space, you are grandfathered in and will keep the existing features and all new features going forward for the foreseeable future.

To all the early supporters Thank You for your trust and assistance with fixing some of the bugs in the earlier versions.

Again if you have any questions or issues please feel to reach out to me.

Hi Blaine, would it be possible to add Infomaniak kDrive as a cloud provider?

I’m unable to load any details about that provider and I don’t see it listed as a supported remote provider within rclone.org so if rclone ever adds support for that provider I will inherent that support in a future update. Enter Space uses rclone as a library so any tier 1-3 supported remote provider is allowed within Enter Space. It’s possible that kdrive uses some protocol that rclone and Enter Space already can speak but without having any details on that service I'm unable to provide a better answer at this time. Sorry about that.

welcome to the forum,

can use webdav to access kdrive

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Apps should better not set iCloud as the default Document Storage ….

Thankfully I noticed and fixed this, when I disabled the KI, background and search settings for the App.

Not sure what your issue is with iCloud Drive but the app will make use of it for things that you wire up yourself. If you link an iCloud Drive folder it will use it. Most things use iCloud Keychain with a fallback to on device keychain when iCloud is unavailable. Nothing gets written to an ICloud Drive Enter Space app folder unless you manually set that up. Even the File Provider is outside of the ICloud Drive path so I'm really confused about your statement to say the least. Is there a reason you don’t want to use iCloud on an Apple Device? A lot of the nice config backup and sync features on Enter Space don’t work without them. There is not an option to disable search or background in my app and not sure what KI is? If there’s room for improvement I'd like to know where.

In any case v5.0.0 will have a toggle to disable all iCloud features if you want to do so.

I sure don’t want to store anything beside configurations in iCloud, as many people - iCloud is open to Apple!

So having the default Storage set to iCloud at least makes the impression of storing data there.

And of course you can store any configurations still in iCloud so that multiple devices can use them without setting the default Storage!

With the other settings, I was referring to “Apple Intelligence & Siri”, “Search” and “Background App Refresh” which Apple all enables automatically after installing an App.

So I am used to disable all “Apple Intelligence & Siri” toggles and restrict “Search” to “Show App in Search” (of course Apple should not search my Content) and also disable Background App Refresh.
And while doing this, I noticed the default for “Document Storage” and fixed this too.

And this is NOT something Apple does by default, as I had other Apps that did not default to iCloud!
And this is what I mean :slight_smile:

More clear?
Going to test your App against JRDrive, S3Drive and Rclone UI.

Going to test your App against JRDrive, S3Drive and Rclone UI.

I did so.

To be honest, you get things a bit wrong.

I know nobody (not one person) who pays for a subscription that does not provide something by itself (ChatGPT, Netflix, …)

For Apps, it is best to use a “desktop like” payment scheme, as done by Working Copy or Loopy Pro Apps:

You pay once, get support and update for one year, but can continue to use the App till the rest of your live without any further payment! You still get basic update like for OS changes or security stuff.

Only if you ever want some new feature, you can opt to pay again and get any and all new features that you were missing. On desktop, the new payment will be needed (at a discount for old buyers) when a new major version appears, once a year or less frequently. But basically the same idea.

Perfect solution for both customer and developer! The developer is encouraged to constantly add new feature and the customer never looses something, but can opt to get new features or to support the developer.

So, for a rclone wrapper, a subscription is not the right thing to do, really.

I wonder if you will even get one (that stays)…

And 70 Euro for live time … is just too much for such a wrapper, also honestly. Even as you added some nice features.

Better use the desktop-like scheme I described above and charge 10 to 20 first time and then 5 to 10 bucks for a new payment (which ideally will be yearly).

Just my feedback.

As I said, I also tested other Apps:

JRdrive: One time payment of 10 Euro, much better (but not good for the developer, sadly)

S3Drive: Worked fine, is also available on Android. So far, I found no way to add my SSH keys. That remains an open topic. It’s subscription is about 1/4 of yours and live time is 30 Euro, which is more reasonable.7

RClone UI: Cannot even start, it does not seem to allow import of my rclone config file :sweat_smile::sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

So it will either be JRdrive or S3Drive for me, as long as you charge subscription or too high.

For syncing between iOS / Android and my desktop, I prefer to use Syncthing anyways (Synctrain or Moebius Sync)

My recommendation: Research the desktop-like payment option, it is honestly the best!

https://loopypro.com/pricing/

Document and default storage option is not something I've set or control from my app. It appears to be a new iOS feature that lets users choose a file provider for any app to control the apps document storage location. This must show up now because my app implements FPE and is not tied just to the Enter Space and likely defaults system wide to iCloud Drive if the user has iCloud Drive enabled. Not sure when they added that in all honesty. Like it shows up for other apps too on my iPhone now… thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Thanks for clarifying about the different options you noticed though.

Thanks for evaluating Enter Space. That’s the point of the free trial. It won't be for everyone and that’s ok. It was built for the needs I had and version 5 will add even more features removing the title of just an Rclone Wrapper that I don’t agree with it being called right now either. Time Portal and other unique features are already Enter Space features built on top of Rclone itself.

As for the pricing models I'll have you know people still subscribe and some pay for the lifetime too. My app isn’t super popular but if it helps some people that is the goal.

Regarding desktop class pay once for a year of updates that just cover the version you bought is a very complex pricing model to implement on iOS and Mac App Store that is not something I plan to add support for. The lifetime pricing is competitively priced against other Mac only software factoring in the utility Enter Space brings.

Thanks for your honest feedback and thorough evaluation, I hope you find the right tool you're looking for.

I was sure that I saw Apps that came with the default set to “My iPad” …

But maybe I misremembered.

I did not check out the Mac version and was not even aware that it exists - on Mac I simply use rclone directly.

I checked the App for iPad and from what I saw and posted above, your App is quite expensive.
But right, I did not compare all features of the Apps - after your posting, I will test more thoroughly and come back!

About the “desktop-like” licensing scheme, I don’t think it is difficult to implement - lots of App use it. Just a list of (advanced) features with a date and a list of IAP with dates, I suspect - but yes, I don’t know the details.

The app started with macOS and during development started building a feature parity version on iOS and iPadOS as well. I know rclone works for advanced users on macOS already and it’s not needed but I have found the extra features and general UI approach on macOS has been quite nice. Then I launched an Apple TV version too and that has been a nice platform addition as well.

The website for the project has a breakdown of the features as well as a pricing comparison model. Some of the later features are still pending App Review from Apple for the v5 release. Most features are already live though and there are a lot of them.

It may not be for you and that’s fine, but I appreciate you taking a second look.

as for the desktop licensing model I'm aware that working copy does it and I'm not sure of too many other iOS apps doing that though.

as for implementation instead of just seeing the user has an active subscription you have to make a request to see when they purchased it and that reply is not always guaranteed for various situations so you have to cache it kind of if users go offline. Then the other side of this the app needs to have feature flags implemented for all of the apps features so that each feature has a date of when it was released and all of this factoring in the lag of the app review times just makes the licensing feel kind of mushy at best and the fact that I don’t have feature flags implemented in the app as currently all features are there if the licensing is valid would require a rather large refactor and testing this change is really difficult too because it’s time based and uses APIs the developer doesn’t have much control over.

So when I said it’s complicated I meant that fully.

Also at the end of the day just trusting the user is subscribed yields a similar effect and allows the developer to continue to build out the app and add new features and importantly maintain the software as new operating system updates happen and new platform requirements evolve.

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@blaineam

How do I get technical support? I installed for a free trial but nothing happens when I try & open the app. If I try & delete the app it tells me it cannot be deleted because it’s Open but it’s not in the Dock & I cannot Command-Tab to it either. I killed the process in Activity Monitor so that I could then delete the app after which I reinstalled but I still have the same issue i.e. the app does nothing

MacBook Air 15” 24GB RAM 1TB SSD Tahoe 26.4.1

It’s at the top of the forum post. Email me at enter-space@wemiller.com

On macOS the app is a menu bar app and a file provider app once configured. You start most interactions on macOS through the Enter Space logo in the top right. And to quit it use the menu bar and go to the settings tab and scroll all the way down and there is a quit button.

I'm surprised you quit it from activity monitor and it still would not let you delete it though.