"Unlimited" alternatives to Google Drive, what are the options?

Sorry, what is this trick in reference to? What should we Google?

Thanks for digging all this up! :slight_smile:

Seriously, great info and indeed it helps understand what might be going on with that "too cheap to be good" offer.

:thumbsup: @MrDevanWright is absolutely right!

And even better, folks: let's all just ignore the dumb troll trying to trick us into overreacting and then forcing the forum moderators to close this thread.

This thread is a tremendous resource and has already provided me (the OP) and many others, with invaluable tips and resources.

If we just ignore the troll, s/he will just go away.

Remember, everyone: don't feed the troll!

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My suggestion would be to DIY. That's what I do here for most of my data. I do it straight on top of Linux + ZFS (put your right hand up and your left hand over your heart and repeat with me, three times with gusto: "ZFS is absolutely great!"), but if that's too geeky for you, there's ready-made solutions on top of them (or similar) that encapsulate most of the complexity for you, like FreeNAS or Proxmox.

Hardware-wise, there's a lot of choices to be made, but in my case (as I don't need all the data online all the time) I partition it on sets of 20TB each, and store it in sets of 6x 5TB "portable" USB3 external HDDs (like this one) formatted as ZFS raidz2 pools. These disks are then connected to my main computer and used as needed. To be able to find which set hosts a specific file or directory, I have a "master" text file on my computer that's basically an aggregate of the list of files/directories on each site (ie, find /POOL_MOUNTPOINT -ls >>~/master_file.txt).

Each 5TB HDD costs about $100 new (and cheaper when you can find good used ones in eBay), so about $600 for each 20TB. If that's too rich for your blood, you can use larger disks, which are usually cheaper per TB, like this 14TB Seagate "Desktop" that can now be had for about $200, so 6 of these in raidz2 would give you 4x14= 56TB of net space for about $1200.

If you need your 200TB online all the time, then things start to get more complicated and, depending on how you want to balance simple/cheap/good/fast (just remember you can't have all four) there's a ton of other options from using cheap hardware like Raspberry or NUC small computers plus USB hubs and external drives or multi-drive USB enclosures, to outdated-but-still-good-enough used server-class hardware (which can be purchased 2nd hand relatively cheap on ebay etc) plus extenders and secondary cabinets.

Any of these options would IMO/IME give you a much cheaper and more flexible and open solution than a brand-name NAS like Sinology/QNap etc. But then some learning will be required, and the whole she-bang is bound to be more complex to admin (yep, admin -- these things can almost run themselves, but not totally) and problem-prone (depending on the quality of the hardware you end up using), so pick your poison.

Hope the above helps!

EDIT: see this other topic for the guy who assembled (and then colocated, but it would also work for non-colocation) his own 'semi-pro' NAS: Cheaper than cloud storage - colocating my own storage server

My current verdicts are in, after the latest RClone update.

Blomp: Useable with the swift-use-segments-container parameter, speeds from US are maxing out around 86MB/s on a 1Gbps connection.

ULOZ: Too slow from US, testing in multiple locations only getting about 11MB/s.

Just my 2-cents.

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hi. i just noticed this email..

"Your Google Workspace Enterprise Standard for your account has been scheduled for suspension and will soon be canceled, and your data will be lost

Hello,

We’ve noticed that your account has been using more storage than currently available to you. For this reason we placed your account in a “read-only” state. Learn more about what happens when you exceed storage limits.

Because you have not taken the necessary steps to free up or get more storage, we will suspend your Google Workspace Enterprise Standard subscription in 7 days on June 24, 2024.

If you take no action your Google Workspace Enterprise Standard subscription will be canceled. You can export all your organization's data before the subscription is canceled. You will be notified prior to your subscription being canceled. Once your subscription has been canceled, you will lose all your data and cannot recover it.

Sincerely,
The Google Workspace Team"

is there anything i can do? i really need to download about 30tb of content, the rest i could delete. all rclone crypted. any options? am i cooked? can i contact them somehow?

This has been talked over and over. Yes they will suspend and delete your data unless you go under quota or increase the number of licenses to cover the storage you have with them. If you have more than 5 licenses you can ask for more space and see if they approve. You can repeat every 3 months, but seems as you ask for more, the more strict they get and more likely not to approve.

Not really anybody offering unlimited anymore. Check for alternatives, lot of people moved to other providers or to local storage.

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Exactly man , Captain Hook really didn't want to kill Peter Pan :slight_smile:

Hi

have you made the script to download mini parts for every files, in 1fichier, to avoid the delete of these files?

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I just paid for a jottacloud account, moved 10TB to it so far. For 30TB get an idrive account, it's not cheap but you can upload to it at 115Mbits/sec constantly.

I'm assuming you mean 115MB/s and not mbit.

Erm possibly, I haven't anything I need to upload right now, just checked my stats and I uploaded 45TB in 6 days.

115MiB/s is what's shown by rclone.

Mebibytes (MiB) = 1024
Megabytes (MB) = 1000

MiB is more "correct"

is just a sad word, although correct. :wink:

What is the “slow” jottabyte speed after 5TB?

From my experience they don't speed cap after 5TB, I did however get an email stating I would be speed capped and tried to sell me Jottacloud Pro. But it's supposed to 200k upload speed.

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I always use

MiB = 1000
MB = 1024

Just to add to the confusion. Megabyte will always be a power of 2! Viva la revolution!

To Jottacloud or idrive?

That was to idrive, jottacloud limit seems to be 10MiB/s even if you can upload faster and have less than 5TB stored. I'm currently paying for both.