It seems Box is not an option anymore. Dropbox is out of the list for a while now. I was using box with the higher plan and they also locked the data after around 50TB of upload in 2 months. I have a few PBs of media in google drive but I'll just pay for the read-only data while a good option appears.
loop me in now after I've read all the above msg
I own also since some years drpbx adv plan and received yesterday a mail from them that they decrease to 5tb each user....and... this will go live on end of nov... I own more than 500tb since years....my plan is yearly and runs out next year feb.... so what the heck is around with all the cloud storage providers.... they still fuck up with their customers... box, google, drpbx, ms all at the same time.... that smells like collusion!
So what they say? No 1 year of same plan at the same price? They will wiping out everything at the end of november?
They don't say.
This is the mail I guess :
" In order to continue providing all Dropbox customers with a reliable storage experience and to keep pace with growing demand, weâre making some changes to our Dropbox Advanced plan.
Rest assured that there are no changes to your price for Dropbox Advanced, your service, or your data access.
Under our âas much space as you needâ Advanced plan, weâve found that a growing number of customers were buying Advanced subscriptions for non-business purposes. Weâve seen a surge of this behavior in recent months in the wake of other services making similar storage policy changes. Weâve observed that customers like these frequently consume thousands of times more storage than our genuine business customers, which risks creating an unreliable experience for all of our customers. As a result, weâre sunsetting the âas much space as you needâ policy and transitioning to a metered model. Weâre committed to making the transition as seamless as possible for our customers and ensuring they have the solutions they need to do their best work on Dropbox.
Whatâs happening
- Your Dropbox Advanced plan will transition on November 27, 2023.
- Your price for Advanced will not change, and there are no changes to your service or data access.
- Under our Advanced planâs updated storage policy, three active licenses will receive 15TB of storage space shared by the teamâenough space to store about 100 million documents, 4 million photos or 7500 hours of HD video. Each additional active license will receive 5TB of storage, up to 1,000TB.
- When your team transitions to this new plan, your account will likely be over quota.
What you need to do - Before November 20, 2023, please book a personalized session with our team [here] so that we can discuss your plan options. The scheduling link is also available in your [Dropbox account].
Thank you,The Dropbox team"
I don't care If I can't upload anymore, but they better not deleting stuff this soon.
So the 1 year part is gone. No mention of that like it was in the original message at the end of august.
received the same email
Yep I received the same email and reached out to them for clarification. They apologised as they realised it is VERY badly worded
Here's a summary of what it should say, shared by one of the team
"This is a follow up email to our chat earlier regarding your questions about the changes to our advanced plan.
As we discussed, will not be losing the storage space you are already using.
For customers utilizing 35TB or more of storage per license, youâll be able to continue utilizing your current storage amount at the time youâre notified, plus an additional 5TB credit of pooled storage for one year at no additional charge to your existing plan.
Upon the 12th month mark your account will switch to the new policy, however, you can contact our Sales department to discuss your options that better fit your needs. Starting from November, you will also have the option to purchase storage space from the Admin Console as well."
So still not great news from a long term storage perspective, but we do have 12 months to find an alternative solution. Ultimately it's becoming very clear that the unlimited cloud storage bubble has officially burst. If both Google and DropBox are now backtracking then everyone else will follow. I'm afraid cloud storage is not going to be viable for most unless you have relatively deep pockets or a business that can justify the outlay.
I have also booked a call tomorrow evening with someone on their business team who will discuss options post 12 months. Hopefully I'll be able to get a clearer idea of pricing post November.
I'll report back here once I know more
for those following this thread, I have a box.com business account with 3 users and hit this today: (web and rclone)
Good news if the 12 months are still on. My plan is to move everything I have back on premise next year, then cancel my sub. I'll go back to basic/free account. Maybe the data will still be there in read only...
So, what are their expectations or options? Do we need to buy more seats? If we don't buy more seats, what will they do? Remove our data?
another update, my account again seems fine today (shoe XX tb/unlimited) I believe it may have been in full mode for a few days, I realized the two times I've gotten automated emails about bandwidth have been on the 17th of the month. don't know if that means anything.
updated: AAAAND it's "full" again
Another update from box support:
Box has determined that your account has violated our Terms of Service for bandwidth usage in excess of your permitted allotment. Additional details can be found in our Fair Use Policy under Section 3 âProduct Limitsâ. This would be the reason for the full storage limit.
In response to this activity, to protect the integrity of the Box Service, we have placed a rate limit upon your account. Provided that there are no additional violations of the Terms of Service, that rate limit will be removed 30 days from its implementation.
If you would prefer to terminate your service rather than continue your use of Box under these conditions, you can reach out to cancel@box.com with the subject line of âFair Use Policy at Boxâ and request a refund. You will receive a refund for the time remaining on your contract at Box and be provided with 30 days to download your content from Box before the account is deactivated.
Otherwise, if you continue to violate the Terms of Service, your account will be deactivated with immediate effect. This decision is final. Data remaining in the Box Service will not available for download.
Reading through the support threads they don't officially support rclone and a lot of people seem to be having issues with it I guess you could use chunker, though it looks like they support files >5gb but need to be uploaded into multi part chunks. It is an interesting option if they manage to sort their system out as it's much cheaper than idrive and monthly too.
Seems like a bad idea to use telegram infrastructure like that ?
This rclone version support Teldrive GitHub - divyam234/rclone: "rsync for cloud storage" - Google Drive, S3, Dropbox, Backblaze B2, One Drive, Swift, Hubic, Wasabi, Google Cloud Storage, Yandex Files
I don't use it for important stuff of course. Still telegram encourage people to use it. 700 Million Users and Telegram Premium
Excellent! - I'm curious, are any limits known to be already enforced in the Telegram backend?
I'm thinking about stuff like
- daily upload/download limits (bytes and files)
- speed limits for upload/download
- number of parallel connections allowed
- delays/waits for operations
- tps limits / 429, Too many requests
- max number of total files
- are users being banned for non-standard/abuse usage patterns
etc. Telegram Premium is said to offer faster downloads, for instance.
Also, there are statements like these floating around:
- "Telegram data is deleted after 2 weeks of inactivity."
- "If you stop using Telegram and don't come online for at least six months, your account will be deleted along with all messages, media ..."
What kind of housekeeping is it necessary to perform with this backend?
Right there is still many questions.
As said on the Github multibots is the way to go to prevents flooding with Teldrive.
For files life I was hoping a Library Scan, with Plex/Jellyfin will be enough. I donât know, time will tell.
Singles upload for me is about 5Mo/s. Didnât test the download but it is enough to stream hdr content.
We will see soon enough I guess.
Did iDrive double the pricing for e2? Anyone with an existing account know if they will keep the old pricing from the next billing cycle or be switched to the new?
I am seeing the same prices they have always advertised.