Restic+rclone vs rclone+rclone crypt+rclone chunker

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What is the problem you are having with rclone?

Hi all!

I have a NAS at home and want to setup an off-site cloud cold storage backup.

The data I want to backup is fairly static. FIles will be edited, added, or removed rarely.

Now, I was wondering if I should use restic+rclone or rclone only using its crypt and chunker features to encrypt and chunk the data (so that file size and folder structure does not leak)?

If I would go with restic+rclone, as I understand, each time I run restic backup, I would create a new snapshot in the repo. How does that affect storage size? I.e., if I would have a file with small changes with every snapshot, is the entire file stored again and again or is this done by storing deltas?

Thanks!

Run the command 'rclone version' and share the full output of the command.

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Which cloud storage system are you using? (eg Google Drive)

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The command you were trying to run (eg rclone copy /tmp remote:tmp)

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Please run 'rclone config redacted' and share the full output. If you get command not found, please make sure to update rclone.

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A log from the command that you were trying to run with the -vv flag

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welcome to the forum,

for backups, i like to keep it simple, so i use restic without rclone.
imho, rclone+crypt+rclone+chunker is way too complex for backups.

  • rclone - why use rclone with restic?
  • crypt - restic encrypts backups. imho, would not trust rclone crypt for critical backups.
  • chunker - restic already splits files into chunks. and rclone chunker is beta.

i see that you already posted at restic forum...
https://forum.restic.net/t/restic-rclone-vs-rclone-rclone-crypt-rclone-chunker/7185

@kapitainsky, you use restic?

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All you say I agree and do similar ways.

sometimes it is needed to provide connectivity to cloud storages not supported natively with restic - as sort of connectivity plugin only:)

Lately I started moving from restic to rustic - which is written in rust program using restic repo format. It has a lot of features which are still not available with restic. And is fully interchangeable with restic.

Both restic and rustic are really CLI programs. For something with GUI I would recommend to look at kopia (which also uses rclone for connectivity if needed).

Definitely big NO to use rclone as a backup program - unless some simple sync or one off copy.

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Why wouldn't you trust rclone crypt?

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just my personal opinion.

crypt is rock stable. the lack of bugs/issues in the forum, over the years, is proof of that.
i use it for hiding media, same as most users.

crypt has never been independently audited and lacks full support for checksums.

most of what i upload is already encrypted using 7zip, veeam backup, keepass, etc..
in addition, i work mostly with S3, and more reliable to have the provider handle the encryption.

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