Question about crypting & chunking and rclone in general

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Hi everyone,

I'm new on rclone and I would like to know if it's reliable to crypt and chuck files, and in what order.

Also, I would like to use the cheapest cloud, everything else does not matter because I will encrypt my backup so no one can see it and I have extra backup at home so it doesn't matter if one cloud provider is no reliable. So I think the best option here is 1fichier.com that offer 2TB of cold storage for 2.5€ (I need for now at least 1TB). Is that a good choice ?

And lastly, with this setup, I think I want to sync every 15min with cron. Do you see any issues with that ? I think I will use the latest version of rclone (1.66 for now) at home on my Debian server that is already sync to my devices via Nextcloud.

Have a wonderful day

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IMO the most logical is to chunk first and then encrypt:

[remote]
type = something

[crypt_remote]
type = crypt
remote = remote:data

[chunker_remote]
type = chunker
remote = crypt_remote:

in above setup user should always use chunker_remote to access data.

You will get what you pay for. Search this forum or google for others opinion and common problems.

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If it isn't absolutely necessary because the storage-backend wants it that way i would advise against using chunking.
Just another unnecessary layer of complexity really.
And with some storage-backends that count API-calls it is even a disadvantage.

And regarding 1fichier i can just advise against.
They are actively catering to piracy-downloaders and uploaders and making money on copyright-infringement. They could be closed down anytime.
I would look for a real dedicated professional object storage if this data means anything to you.

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no idea if that is a good value or not as compared to other providers, due to lack of information.
based on https://1fichier.com/hlp.html, they do not define what cold storage is?
--- what the minimum retention period?
--- what is the cost to delete a file before the minimum retention period expires?
--- what is the time period delay for files to go from cold to hot?

yes, it can be a issue.
with real cold storage, such as aws deep glacier, sync is not possible/practical.
it is just not designed for sync every 15 minutes.

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I want to chunk in the case i fave a file greater than 50Gb because a lot of cloud services don't accept more. I don't even know if i will have such big files on the future but i want to do it now just in case.

I see, but the data is already backed-up on my server, and it's cheap so that's not a big deal for me

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I understand, but when i clicked on this link, they say that premium users have 2To of cold storage, and not limited hot storage. So i think i will be using the hot storage.

And just to give me an idea, how many times do you backup to an external server for one day ? And if it's a clod storage ?

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if the provider offers unlimited hot storage, what is the point of offering cold storage?
sorry, not making sense to me.
there must be a difference between hot and cold?

TL;DR, what @kapitainsky wrote "You will get what you pay for"

really hard to provide a general answer, it depends on the source.
for keepass, a trigger every time i made a change.

for file servers, i keep file backups and veeam backups on local NAS for a couple of years.
90 days of recent data at wasabi.
move older data to aws deep glacier storage at approx $1.00/TiB/Month.
tho, recently, i am using idrive more and wasabi/aws less.

the important thing is, when the SHTF, how quickly can the critical data can be download/restored on demand.

i simply cannot trust these so called unlimited providers, sounds like a scam, much discussed in the forum.
and cannot depend on them, down the road, when i really need download/saturate my internet connection.

for example, with veeam backups, i can actually perform an instant recovery using rclone mount of data in wasabi.
in my testing, their low latency cannot be beat and that is what matters most to me, i am willing to pay for that.
also, wasabi supports IAM/bucket polices, MFA and session tokens.
must have a plan i can trust to recover from a disaster or i get fired/sued!

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Yes, you're right, i will use the hot storage (i thought the cold storage was more secure).

But like i said before, it does not matter if the cloud provider is reliable, i will still have my files on 3 different devices: My PC, my server and my cloud.

But if i see problems, i think i will go to Yandex disks, the second cheaper and that can't be a scam since it's literally the russian Google that everyone use up there for everything. But tell me if you have heard something bad about it

So i think i will backup there every day late at night. That sounds good for you ?

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off topic for me, so i will quote other forum members.

Yandex is russian company doing business in places like Iran. Some people do not care but for many it can be no go

Now, being state monopolists of the Russian market with mail,ru, they have no reason to make efforts to improve their services.
And their ability to do this after leaving the country of its most qualified specialists has become significantly less.

and this is sad to read about @ivandeex
Unfortunately due to the situation in Russia at the moment he can't contribute to rclone any more, and
in fact haven't heard anything from him for over a year :frowning:

and this is really sad.
just now, i checked @ivandeex username page and found
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