When I rename a file, e.g.:
rclone moveto myremote:foo myremote:bar , rclone copies the file and deletes the original it, rather than simply changing the name on the remote. This is a problem on Wasabi, because deleted files continue to be charged for 3 months after the delete.
One thing I have noticed is, once, I accidentally used "move" instead of moveto. After the first move, moveto
What is your rclone version (output from rclone version)
Which OS you are using and how many bits (eg Windows 7, 64 bit)
I've tried on armv7 linux, aarch64 linux, amd64 linux
Which cloud storage system are you using? (eg Google Drive)
Wasabi S3 + crypt
The command you were trying to run (eg rclone copy /tmp remote:tmp)
My understanding isn't that you pay 3 more months; it's that you pay up to three months. So if your file was there for two months and then you delete it, you pay for an additional month. If your file was there 5 months and you delete it, it gets deleted.
You are 100% correct about the S3 spec but, FWIW, Wasabi has a custom move API. It does not make sense, in my opinion for rclone to natively support it in S3 but OP could submit a feature request a new wasabi remote type.
yes, i am aware of that and somewhere in the past, i raised that issue in the forum.
once i contacted wasabi about it, asking for them to offer better support and working with rclone for that move api and updating the endpoints used in rclone to match the endpoints now offered by wasabi.
they were not responsive.
That is unfortunate. Personally, the 90 day thing is one of the major reasons I chose B2 over Wasabi (and it is $0.99/Tb/month less). I have heard Wasabi is faster but since my use case is just backups, it hardly matters to me.
as i upload veeam backups, it is a 30 day thing and if the use-case is backups, the 90 or 30 day rentention period is not really an issue.
i like wasabi for the very fast downloads at no charge.
how does b2 compare in terms of download speeds?
and as for storage price,
i keep the latest backups in wasabi and need to know i can saturate my 1Gbps fiber optic connection to download after disaster, ransomware or what not.
i move older stuff to aws s3 deep glacier for $1.01/TB/month.
so overall my costs are very low...
I actually just migrated B2 -> Wasabi after getting crushed with API charges from B2. I'm also enjoying the faster uploads and downloads. I may just have to lump it, unless/until the aforementioned custom move api is implemented.
This really depends on the backup strategy. If you use rclone directly with --backup-dir then it can add up. But I do see your point.
I forgot about that when I said it was cheaper. That does change the calculus
I don't really know. I don't have much to compare to and I have 200/10 connection so I am usually the limiting factor.
In general, I use B2 because I closely follow the company and use their personal backup service too. They are far from perfect but I haven't had any issues to speak of. They also don't have anything like a minimum object size or time. Just feels more straight-forward. (except for egress)
Anyway, This has been an interesting discussion and I appreciate it!