Having some trouble with backing up data to google drive outside the time interval

Raman_Bhathal · August 25, 2025, 5:55pm

What is the problem you are having with rclone?

I am using the Google Drive API and Google API credentials to back up files from my local drive to Google Drive. It works great from 11:40 pm PDT till 5 pm PDT. Outside this time interval, I get a user rate limit exceeded error. So, it means if I run after 6 pm or before 11 am, I get an error - Failed to copy: googleapi: Error 403: User rate limit exceeded., userRateLimitExceeded.

Run the command 'rclone version' and share the full output of the command.

rclone v1.70.2

os/version: Microsoft Windows Server 2019 Standard 1809 (64 bit)
os/kernel: 10.0.17763.7314 (x86_64)
os/type: windows
os/arch: amd64
go/version: go1.24.4
go/linking: static
go/tags: cmount

Which cloud storage system are you using? (eg Google Drive)

Google drive

The command you were trying to run (eg `rclone copy /tmp remote:tmp`)

rclone copy "N:\tmp" "NAS_BackUp:/tmp" --update --log-level=INFO

Please run 'rclone config redacted' and share the full output. If you get command not found, please make sure to update rclone.

[NAS_BackUp]
type = drive
client_id = XXX
client_secret = XXX
scope = drive
token = XXX
team_drive =

[NAS_BackUp2]
type = drive
client_id = XXX
client_secret = XXX
scope = drive
token = XXX
team_drive =

[NAS_BackUp3]
type = drive
client_id = XXX
client_secret = XXX
scope = drive
token = XXX
team_drive =

A log from the command that you were trying to run with the `-vv` flag

Logs are big but in general I get this error - 
2025/08/24 23:59:05 ERROR : ArtShare/Teresa_Temp/Games/SlingoDiamondsExtreme/PNG/Diamonds_Extreme_Screen_01.jpg: Failed to copy: googleapi: Error 403: User rate limit exceeded., userRateLimitExceeded
2025/08/24 23:59:25 ERROR : ArtShare/Teresa_Temp/Games/SlingoDiamondsExtreme/PNG/Diamonds_Extreme_Screen_03.jpg: Failed to copy: googleapi: Error 403: User rate limit exceeded., userRateLimitExceeded
2025/08/24 23:59:25 ERROR : ArtShare/Teresa_Temp/Games/SlingoDiamondsExtreme/PNG/Diamonds_Extreme_Screen_02.jpg: Failed to copy: googleapi: Error 403: User rate limit exceeded., userRateLimitExceeded
2025/08/24 23:59:28 ERROR : ArtShare/Teresa_Temp/Games/SlingoDiamondsExtreme/PNG/Diamonds_Extreme_Screen_04.jpg: Failed to copy: googleapi: Error 403: User rate limit exceeded., userRateLimitExceeded
2025/08/24 23:59:30 ERROR : ArtShare/Teresa_Temp/Games/SlingoDiamondsExtreme/PNG/Thumbs.db: Failed to copy: googleapi: Error 403: User rate limit exceeded., userRateLimitExceeded

but during 11:40 am till 5 pm, it is working -
2025/08/24 13:13:20 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconAllNightBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:21 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBackyardBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:21 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBajaBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:21 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBadLuckBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:21 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBarnyardBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:22 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBibleBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:23 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBingoMatrix.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:23 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBigBullBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:23 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBingoNight.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:24 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBingoPalace.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:24 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBlackboardBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:24 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBlingBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:25 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBlingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:25 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBoatTrip.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:26 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBrahBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:26 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBootCampBingo.jpg: Copied (new)
2025/08/24 13:13:26 INFO  : Projects/Archive/Bingo Explosion/Ticket Images/IconBobsBingo.jpg: Copied (new)

asdffdsa · August 25, 2025, 5:59pm

welcome to the forum,

that is strange, but not seeing how that could be a rclone issue.

can you post the top thirty lines of a debug log

Raman_Bhathal · August 26, 2025, 5:31pm

2025/08/26 10:06:55 DEBUG : rclone: Version "v1.70.2" starting with parameters ["rclone" "copy" "N:\NAS" "NAS_BackUp:/VIC-NAS01" "--update" "--log-level=DEBUG"]
2025/08/26 10:06:55 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "N:\NAS"
2025/08/26 10:06:55 DEBUG : Using config file from "C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\rclone\rclone.conf"
2025/08/26 10:06:55 DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "N:\NAS" to be canonical "//?/N:/NAS"
2025/08/26 10:06:55 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "NAS_BackUp:/VIC-NAS01"
2025/08/26 10:06:55 DEBUG : Google drive root 'VIC-NAS01': 'root_folder_id = 0ANPRP0ZJHbs2Uk9PVA' - save this in the config to speed up startup
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "NAS_BackUp:/VIC-NAS01" to be canonical "NAS_BackUp:VIC-NAS01"
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : ActiveBackupforBusiness: Directory modification time the same (differ by -165.2µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "ActiveBackupforBusiness", newDst=ActiveBackupforBusiness
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Archives: Directory modification time the same (differ by -347.4µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "Archives", newDst=Archives
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : ArtShare: Directory modification time the same (differ by -994.7µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "ArtShare", newDst=ArtShare
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Contracts: Directory modification time the same (differ by -491.3µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "Contracts", newDst=Contracts
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : GMRDropBox: Directory modification time the same (differ by -462.7µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "GMRDropBox", newDst=GMRDropBox
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : GameHouseOffice: Directory modification time the same (differ by -533.6µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "GameHouseOffice", newDst=GameHouseOffice
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : HRSecure: Directory modification time the same (differ by -607µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "HRSecure", newDst=HRSecure
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Keystores: Directory modification time the same (differ by -804.6µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "Keystores", newDst=Keystores
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : MarketingCreative: Directory modification time the same (differ by -973.5µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "MarketingCreative", newDst=MarketingCreative
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : MasterSafe: Directory modification time the same (differ by -840.2µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "MasterSafe", newDst=MasterSafe
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Projects: Directory modification time the same (differ by -716.1µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "Projects", newDst=Projects
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : RaspberryPI: Directory modification time the same (differ by -973.2µs, within tolerance 1ms)
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Added delayed dir = "RaspberryPI", newDst=RaspberryPI
2025/08/26 10:06:56 DEBUG : Software: Directory modification time the same (differ by -806.2µs, within tolerance 1ms)

I'm not sure if this is helpful, but at 10 am, I ran the command “rclone copy "N:\NAS" "NAS_BackUp:/VIC-NAS01" --update --log-level=INFO,” and it gave me the same user rate-limited error. I don’t think this is an rclone issue, but rather something to do with the Google Drive api.

I don’t know if I'm missing anything during the configuration of this Google Cloud project, or if I should contact Google for this issue.

Animosity022 · August 26, 2025, 5:48pm

You can only upload 750GB per day.

Raman_Bhathal · August 26, 2025, 5:56pm

yeah I am totally aware of that but it shouldnt matter at what time I running rclone during the day. Like it fails at 10 am and I havent reached the daily limit yet. But if I run the same command at 12 pm, it starts uploading files till I reach the daily limit.

Also one thing I wanted to add, is that my google project is set to internal and my current per day token grant rate limit is 10,000 grants per day.

Animosity022 · August 26, 2025, 6:01pm

I’m not sure anyone can tell you when the ‘per day’ happens or if it’s rolling or what happens if you are over a lot a day before.

403s have nothing to do with the token grant rate. That is not the error you are seeing.

Feel free to hit Google Support but in my experience, they don’t tell a thing about the limits nor offer any help with a 403s.

Raman_Bhathal · August 26, 2025, 6:23pm

yeah they are not helping much in this case. To test my theory, I waited for a day without running rclone and ran it next day in the morning, it failed

Animosity022 · August 26, 2025, 6:24pm

You are trying to play a game though where you aren’t sure what the rules are as I stated above.

Google doesn’t tell you when things restart, if there is something to do with uploading too much in a period, does it impact the next.

If it failed, you are out of quota. Wait and try again later.

system · September 25, 2025, 6:25pm

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