Google Drive vs Google Cloud Storage

Hello,
I'm trying to use Google Drive to backup a FreeNAS device. FreeNAS uses rclone for this, so I decided to come here for help, coming to the horse's mouth so to speak.

AFAIK, instructions for setting up rclone w/ GD requires obtaining a token. E.g., see this blog post for an example. But if you look further on in this example, " Use case - Google Apps/G-suite account and individual Drive," it calls for using the Google Developer Console to create a project, and projects on the GDC are NOT standard GD features. Instead, they are associated with Google Cloud Storage. Especially on a Google for Education site, which is based on G-Suite, one frequently finds GCS features to be disabled. So one can't create projects.

I installed rclone on my Mac and, in the shell, tried setting up a remote to my GD using "rclone config," as shown on the example page. It didn't work, and I suspect the GD-GCS overlap is why.

I'm new to rclone, GCS, and GD/GCS returning tokens. So maybe I'm misunderstanding this.

But if not, is there any way to configure rclone to use GD without using the Developer Console and GCS services, like projects?

If you configure rclone, by default it doesn't need a project.

You are still using a project though, one owned by rclone which can sometimes be oversubscribed and a bit slow.

Did you leave client_id and client_secret blank? That should have worked I would have thought.

Thanks for the reply, ncw. I think I did, but I'll try again. This time, I'll be as plain vanilla as possible.

But before I do, I have one additional question. Is the token returned by the "rclone config" procedure reusable? In other words, can I copy and paste it elsewhere, where a similar token is used? Even on a different computer?

I'm asking this because FreeNAS has a task interface that schedules and otherwise manages rclone tasks. Eventually, once I get plain vanilla rclone working with GD, I want to migrate to the FreeNAS interface. I suppose I may have to migrate configuration files, or even edit them, but the easiest thing would be simply cutting and pasting the token during the standard FreeNAS configuration process.

Yes you can. You can copy the config file between computers and it should work just fine.

Google Cloud and Google Drive are different systems (although their controls are somewhat integrated).

You don't need any sort of special account to make an API key for a normal Gdrive. Just a regular old free Google account is sufficient. The site you need to do this on is here:
https://console.developers.google.com

If you can not access that for whatever reason then that is very curious... because I've never seen that be the case. If so you could just use your private gmail account to do the job (or make a new free account). The API key can be made from any account - it doesn't have to be the one that has access to the drive necessarily.