Best mount type for cloud storage

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Yes, I saw the template.
But I don't have a problem.
I just have a question.

RCLONE can use WebDAV, SFTP and SMB mounts - for me, from an IONOS HiDrive Cloud service, which offers those.

My question is, what would you recommend to mount this with, in regards of stability and performance? What is the recommended method?

I found several opinions about this, but probably the people in this forum know best :slight_smile:

I should probably add, that I store Cryptomator Vaults on this storage, which I then open.

Great many thanks!

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welcome to the forum,

the only way to know is to test each protocol on the the specific provider, IONOS

  • SMB is not designed to be used on the open internet.
  • sftp should be the slowest but most trustworthy.
  • webdav should be faster than sftp, but less trustworthy.

check out my howto guide about rclone + SMB

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Thanks!

So no "best way is to use X, as seen countless times" or something.

I somewhere read that SMB over OS mount should be most stable, but did not read about problems on the Internet.

From what you wrote, I will test sftp.

Any recommendation for it's configuration?

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when using SMB, that is what i do. i try not to use rclone's SMB remote.

make sure simple commands work, such as rclone ls and rclone copy
use debug logs.

https://superuser.com/questions/311658/make-a-network-drive-available-over-the-internet

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Opening the port is at the provider, so not problem with that.

I did some performance tests and mounting with rclone was way faster than with mount_smbfs ... but i configured a cache for rclone.

Also, with rclone I can see in the logs what's going up, which is valuable.

With my first sftp sync tests, I got lots of strange errors, probably need to limit the transfers more.

2025/07/25 00:55:59 ERROR : d/NU/ERMZFKIQB5ESTD7XTFWAIXCBMJJG6X/c6QnGCVd0gfTIMTFnPGPS-1Rn7-Am-zOR4eLoOcW0u93_RFojBHi7DhmZH0OkJ3LDuCd9R5-fe3MhA==.c9r: Failed to copy: Update Close failed: failed to send packet: EOF
2025/07/25 00:56:00 ERROR : d/NU/ERMZFKIQB5ESTD7XTFWAIXCBMJJG6X/r7ehotYYg5Q5QbrqM9G8Ir4tHv1MlwQu9oh6Voq3XT9fTqKtHsZh5rbkUoyRzupsel1Dh4csZFYpsDsKJfwFJuDrWUU0TuRRL0tfxr_MGD2RSpmdrnelC_U=.c9r: Failed to copy: Update Close failed: connection lost
2025/07/25 00:56:01 ERROR : d/NU/ERMZFKIQB5ESTD7XTFWAIXCBMJJG6X/tz-WmYFo4HSRr4OPKEJYUK8U6FFGS_oEl_Nj9t0BtKo_oJR0oihqstKZWNwYCvksnbBARA==.c9r: Failed to copy: Update Close failed: connection lost
2025/07/25 00:56:02 ERROR : d/NU/ERMZFKIQB5ESTD7XTFWAIXCBMJJG6X/o7YPFlKqvkinRsMrifiM3Wbe6Cge2l8454Kewy90l7j4-wb7125ZlFp3CKGfPRIh0oZWeg==.c9r: Failed to copy: Update Close failed: connection lost
2025/07/25 00:56:06 ERROR : d/SA/4XLRIXOXJIRYKIJ3UXEGMG2OMAENYL/hJz_tGkl7TtZD2QSEz3MiKbSES8AxkjkGzYSR1xnXDju4_37pK1r0qYqgxrY2WAqgoIjOnEd.c9r: Failed to copy: Update Close failed: connection lost

But with WebDAV, I saw no problems - seems to be fine.

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thanks,

how much do you pay for 1TiB/month?
was there a specifc reason to choose that?

as i use hetzer storage box, great prices, webdav, sftp, smb, nothing more flexible, unique feature set.

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1 TB for 7 Euro per month, +3 Euro for more access types.

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$8.22 US
that looks expensive. i guess there is some extra added value for that price.

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Not really, besides the other access protocols.
And performance is fine, I can saturate my 40 Mb/s upload.

I found no other WebDAV provider.

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hetzner offers two versions. for me, the main difference is file transfer verification using checksums.

  • storage box includes generic webdav, cannot verify file transfers. price per TB is from $2.30 to $4.00
  • storage share includes nextcloud webdav, can verify file transfers. price per TB is from $3.10 to $4.00
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Oh man, that is a valuable information!
Many thanks!

That may change my setup :smiley:

I did not know that NextCloud can verify file transfers and regular WebDAV cannot.
Is there a way to see or check this for a server?

Or do you know whether IONOS HiDrive does support that?

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yeah, welcome.

https://rclone.org/webdav/#modification-times-and-hashes

³ WebDAV supports hashes when used with Fastmail Files, Owncloud and Nextcloud only.
⁴ WebDAV supports modtimes when used with Fastmail Files, Owncloud and Nextcloud only.

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I also use a NextCloud server, but I did not configure the type "nextcloud", as then I cannot mount several sub-dirs individually anymore (which I also couple with dedicated and separate cache dirs).
I did that as those directories are used for their own Cryptomator Vaults, and that may be better to cache separately.

But I get that it may be better to use the type "nextcloud" and only use one cache dir, as then I could use hashes and mod times ...

Decisions, decisions, ...

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I got me both a 1 TB Storage Box and Storage Share, as starters :slight_smile:
Both are better than IONOS HiDrive, as it seems.

Thanks again!

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another cool feature of hetzner is how their virtual machines integrate with storagebox.

i rent the cheapest hetzner vm, run jellyfin on it.
the video files are stored the hetzner storagebox.

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note: about the media files accessed by jellyfin server. they are stored on storagebox, they are cypted using a rclone crypt remote.
so if hetzner would fail if it tried to access the files, could not see the filenames, not read the contents

but i really doubt hetzner would snoop around, it is a european company, that complies with GPDR.

plus, i have been doing that for 6+ years.

and everything runs over tailscale. the client, the server, etc...

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