"Unlimited" alternatives to Google Drive, what are the options?

Good idea with the poll, @jxmese!

As you mentioned "leaning towards", I responded with "Selfhosting", which I think is the only long-term viable solution given that Amazon (many years ago), then Google, and finally Dropbox have all rug-pulled us (let's not even mention the total sh!tstorm that was Box).

I'm still at least a few months from that (I'll have to acquire a pair of enclosures and a ton of disks and set a proper 'operating environment' at a friend's or relative's, which will be connected to a Raspberry Pi4B 8GB for the space and power savings), but I simply can't trust any "cloud storage" provider anymore.

And that of course applies to "bill-by-the-byte" providers/plans: all of them have TOS clauses saying "conditions can change anytime the provider effing wants", so nothing prevents any of them from suddenly doubling (or tripling, or decupling) the price you have to pay per month, or to decide they don't want you as a customer anymore and "not renew your contract" at your next payment date, or even cancel it right away and refund you the difference as Dropbox is doing now.

Remember, folks: there is no "cloud storage", there is only other people's HDDs... and they can (and as experience has shown, eventually will) put you and your data over a barrel anytime!

No more being a hostage for me, I've had more than enough.

Here's prices/TB+comments to try and save people some time:

  • Backblaze B2


Not very auspicious for a "cloud" provider :slight_smile:
EDIT: investigated further and here's what their primary NS server (Cloudflare...) is returning:

So, any of you considering Backblaze might want to investigate further...

  • iDrive e2

They seem to charge $1.25/mo/TB across the board, with annual payment (IDrive® e2 plans and pricing for cloud storage)

  • Wasabi

$6.99/TB/mo for "pay as you go"; unspecified price for "reserved capacity storage" that starts with 25TB minimum and demands minimum 1-year pay-up-front commitment. Just for the heck of it, I requested a quote for 25TB on that "reserved" plan, will update this thread when they respond. (Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage Pricing)

  • Hetzner Storage Box

$2.03/TB/mo is their cheapest, for their BX41 plan,with 20TB for EUR 48.31/mo, and then subtracting 19% if you are outside EU as I am, and with the current EUR/$ exchange rate. (Storage)

  • OwnCube Storage Box

$0.89/TB/mo is the lowest, for their 100TB plan paid annually (Angebot für owncube Kunden - wolkesicher.de)
Sounds great, but you might want to consider they have quite a shady reputation plus a history of being frequently offline and even losing customer data(!) (see here, here and here, just for example).

Interesting, but their price is more expensive than buying directly -- eg for iDriveE2 is EUR 2000 annually for the 100TB plan, which boils down to $1.80/TB/mo (same criteria as for Hetzner above, except they don't mention VAT, so I presume these are final prices for customers anywhere in the world -- not that they would be able to track with crypto payments anyway). Hetzner and OwnCube is also more expensive through them. I haven't investigated further as buying directly would avoid at least one layer of possible confusion and troubles, and being able to pay in crypto is not a priority for me.

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Does anyone know if Hetzner storage boxes are SSD or HDD?

In case it's HDD, will the drives be fast enough to host some of my movies and TV shows to stream there through Emby on my Hetzner dedicated server?

My biggest movie files will be around 25gb, but more often than not it will be around 15gb for movies and 5gb for episodes

They'll be enterprise SAS drives, they'll be plenty fast enough

Its not SSD but its definitely fast enough, they have 1 gbit this is also fast enough to stream something from A to B

I moved my 120Tb local and havent looked back and it has been great not having to worry about cloud storage. However I also have a 3tb in mirror for my family photos and videos + documents folder that I would want to make a second backup kto the cloud. Currently the drive only has a about 250gb used and trying to find the cheapest service to store max 3tb. I would only access the data if the local copy would fail. I was looking at Cloudflare R2 or AWS S3 but I'm not sure I want to go down that route. I'm still reading on how those service work. Anyone have suggestions?

For your use case (basically upload, with download mostly a remote possibility), I think Amazon Glacier Deep Archive is hard to beat at ~u$1/TB/mo: Amazon S3 Pricing - Cloud Object Storage - AWS

Just be prepared that when/if you need to copy it back, they will charge you an arm and a leg.

If you don't want to run that risk, iDrive e2 at $1.25/TB/mo is the best alternative IMO, they have a good reputation and are rclone sponsors to boot :heart:

Website: quotaless.cloud
unlimited storage: $36 monthly
plus $12 one-time fee for every 10T uploaded

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this is way to expensive for my use case

This looks interesting for the 1TB or 2TB it would be good

Yeah, I think @jaimedelano was responding to a previous message about a totally diferent use case (much more volume).

Sure, I don't think there's anything much cheaper nor better than this for the 1TB-2TB range. Be sure to let them know you picked them because of their rclone support! :+1:

Where do i let them know?

Where do i let them know?

I'm not a customer, but I presume that during the sign up process there's some kind of "where did you hear about iDrive" or even a "comments" or "notes" field where you can let them know about it.

Thanks for letting us know! :+1:

It's an interesting pricing model, charging a one-time fee depending on the volume of data (which would allow them to buy the drives to store that data) and then a fixed monthly total (as taking care of the data doesn't change too much by volume).

But the prices themselves sound straight from the "too good to be true" department, unfortunately. :frowning: I mean, $12 one-time for every 10T is $1.20/TB, which is about 1/5 of the cheapest drives (used and low capacity to boot) listed at diskprices.com... so there's no way they would be able to buy the disks with the price they're charging us :expressionless:

I think @Turner is evaluating it, right? Let's wait for his say, he knows his stuff and I highly respect his opinions.

There is no access to their terms of service on this website, nor did they publish which company is running this service.
And when you check the whois from their .cloud-Domain it shows that they used a whois-privacy-service.
I think this is a scam. Catered especially for this community.
Not a well performed one tho.
I would not give them money you most likely won't get any service

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Domain registered november 2022
Terms of service in Portuguese: quotaless.cloud/termos-de-uso-do-quotaless
Scam is a bit of a harsh word

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"The execution, by you, of intense reading or writing operations, as well as a high volume of data traffic in a short period of time, may incur additional charges for you, or temporary suspension of your account."

Looks their total discretion what they consider excess use as they do not list any numbers:) Simply they can kick out anybody, anytime.

If something is "too good to be true" it is usually a scam. $36 per month per unlimited is not sustainable for anybody. It is simple like that.

Also company without address and any business registration they want to share... Yeah.... Definitely legit.

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I have indeed been testing this!

When I first signed up, servers were only available in Austria, they did have a CDN behind CloudFlare but it was still incredibly slow. (1MB/s)

After mentioning this to them, they quickly setup a new server in Toronto. This new server I was able to quickly max out a 1Gb connection from the US.

Pydio is the user interface they utilize, and honestly it's pretty impressive, it's quick, it's modern, and it's well known.

I believe they are on the right track, and honestly being a file hosting business, I can see why they want to do everything they can to hide themselves.

However, the pricing is just a little too good to be true, there is no reasonable way that could be sustainable. There is also no notes about how the data is stored, is there redundancy, is there any sort of protection to disk/site failures?

I leave you with this, if your data can be gathered again, or is already stored elsewhere, then I would certainly bite the bullet. But if this is critical data, until we find out how they can offer the pricing, and what redundancy is truly there, stay away.

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Also, I've completely given up on Blomp. Support was useless, their web interface never worked right, and their Swift server constantly had connection issues.

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Can you elaborate on this? Why would somebody with a legal business do that?
When this is some blackmarket-thingy you could even land on some lists with helping finance criminal-activities or even terrorism. Maybe it is not even their servers where they host the stuff, when this is actually an operating business.
This is way worse than putting your files on this telegram-thingy in my opinion.
And telegram is at least free.

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I was able to request enough storage back on Google Drive for my needs. However, I'm also building a local solution in case they fall through again.

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