"Unlimited" alternatives to Google Drive, what are the options?

Last time I checked Backblaze B2 was $5 for storage and $10 for egress. Did they dropped prices?

Their own calculator tells me they are more expensive than storj (using the same example - 50TB stored, 50TB downloaded)

There is $0 downloads with CDN... not sure what it is exactly but doubt it will work with e.g. encrypted content,

Oh hm yeah you are right.

Know somebody what that is? https://vup.app/
I dont see any storage info.

$3000 for a 50TB seems very expensive.

can get an r720xd (12 3.5" drives) for $500ish. can get 14TB drives (when on sale at least) for $200. RaidZ2 means 1014TB per box. 20012 = 2400+500=2900. around your $3k per box. but gives you 140GB not 50GB.

In general, I agree with the way you approach it, just that the numbers (even for deep glacier) are still in far in favor of local. At the simplistic level, keep 2 14*TB USBs connected to computer at all times, when backing up (for very cold storage) copy to both at same time. When full, index whats on each, label both and put in a closet (or in 2 closets in 2 different locations). you'll pay $30ish per TB for forever cold storage.

Here another alternative https://sia.tech/ perhaps its a little bit harder to configure but its compatible with RCLONE and the price starts at 0.18 $ per TB so you can get 100 TB for 18$ a month. And yes its not a joke :wink:

All you need is on the website, guide, docs and much more.

I don't know where you see $0.18 per TB.

On their pages I find "Pricing on the network usually works out to around $2 per TB per month." from here: About renting on Sia - Sia Docs

Furthermore, costs would be linked to their cryptocurrency, risking to be pretty volatile.

image
image
image

For example this location, there are many locations with 0.18$ per TB. You can choose the price and who you contract with, it's a decentralised storage solution, there is no flat price. You alone decide the price, if you only contract with people who offer the storage for 0.18$ then so be it.
Look the last Screen in PL you can buy storage for only 0.16$ with 0$ upload and 0.02$ download per TB!

1 Like

Yes it can be easily build cheaper. But to make it more apparent how expensive cloud is I chose top NAS hardware on purpose (TrueNAS with 8 core CPU, 64GB ECC RAM, 2x10Gi LAN etc.) So I get not just NAS but also very capable server. And I can buy it off the shelve without any DYI. for less than storing and using 50TB on storj for one year...

1 Like

Glad to hear from you again, @turner. How is your Box experience going? Last time you mentioned it, you already had 60TB uploaded... would like to hear how it's going now, specially in light of this recent and very disturbing report.

TiA!

Had a look and both seem to be P2P and/or Cryptocoin/blockchain based. I don't think anything based on that can be anywhere near reliable, but would be very happy to be proved wrong.

1 Like

I have analyzed the NAS route some months ago and found that it's not hard to build a 60TB server for much less than that if one's willing to make some reasonable compromises.

But IME/IMO a NAS alone doesn't solve the same kind of problems a cloud storage service does: besides the NAS, one would also need at least another one, located AWAY from your own home, and in a safe place, with reliable internet, air conditioning and electricity, plus someone available who can at least eject a bad disk and put a new one in place when one disk goes bad.

This in my case throws the whole NAS option straight out of the window.

I'm always lurking. :wink:

At 106TB at the moment, absolutely no issues. It should be noted I am utilizing it with a legitimate business name, and for business purposes. Crypt and Chunker are working great.

1 Like

Have you set this up? I'm trying, and cannot get renterd to run.
*Update - Sia.tech has Discord, they were able to get me up and running, sounds like an article is in the works for RClone setup.

2 Likes

Here is their public roadmap

I have contacted them online and this is answer I received:

Dear IDrive,

This message is in reference to ticket number: ID1234567890

Hi,

Please upgrade your account to 100TB. We will create a custom plan for you afterward and charge you the additional amount for the 150TB plan. Let us know once done.
Please check pricing here IDrive® e2 plans and pricing for cloud storage

What the hell... I mean, LOL

I bough Skype credit just to be able to call them in the States. I had sent a couple of questions via their online sales form but never heard from them. So I decided to call. I spoke first with a guy and then he passed me through to a different person who stated adamantly that they do not provide custom plans.

I am baffled...

You were able to contact them through the ticketing system because you're already a client of them, correct?

Not paying client. I created free 10GB account to play with it a bit.

Ok. I wonder who I spoke with. I called the US number for "all other countries"...

In any case, thanks a lot for updating me on this. It certainly is a more logic approach and more in line with what I expected, considering their pricing structure.

With many of us back to buying our own harddrives again, I wonder how the ensuing enormous amount of duplication could perhaps be reduced.

Perhaps by utilizing something like DatDot / the Dat protocol / HyperDrive?

On top of this, an "rclone mount" with built-in "unraid functionality", making sure all files in the "dat" / "hyperdrive" are always online and available in the number of copies wanted.

To maintain a 200TB "hyperdrive" (i.e. "2022 linux isos") with 10 copies of each file available, 2PB of storage would be needed.

If 1000 users joined the "hyperdrive", each user would contribute 2TB on average - and some bandwidth, which seems to be plenty these days.

Has this or similar perhaps already been done?

SeaweedFS looks interesting, but seems too centrally managed.

Maybe there is a self-hosted (zero-external-cost) cubbit or storj implementation available? I guess that would work just as well for a ~1000 users group just wanting to de-dupe what they have.

The Least-Authority File Store looks somewhat spindle-oriented, not file-oriented - but also an interesting concept.

Anyway, I'm just brainstorming here. I'm simply looking for something that people could easily join with a simple "rclone mount"-style command, and which would be stable with people entering and leaving - not demanding any central housekeeping, ever.

2 Likes

Anyone here considered or used Microsoft E5 Developer account?

As per details on the website, E5 plan comes with "unlimited storage"

I'm currently testing it with syncing data from a different cloud storage to this Microsoft account (to a SharePoint as their storage can be increased to 25TB)

Have transferred over just under 7tb so far.

You mean something like this? https://getsurge.io/ but i think this project is dead