Slow on local network transfer?

Hi,

my problem is, that rclone is rather slow (~10 MB/Sec) for a single, large file (7 GB) on a local network transfer (Windows -> Samba share) while I have no problem to get the maximum speed (~110 MB/Sec) when copying the same file by hand e.g. via Windows Explorer to the share.

rclone v1.52.2
- os/arch: windows/amd64
- go version: go1.14.4

Windows Server 2019, x64

"D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64\rclone.exe" --config "D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64\.rclone.conf" sync -P --retries 1 --ignore-case --filter-from "D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64\filters_Backup.txt" "D:\Backup" nounc:"\\UK-NUC-01\backup_ssd\Backup"

I've tried copy instead of sync but that didn't change anything.

[nounc]
type = local

Any suggestions to get the maximum speed?

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hello,

when you posted, you were asked for some info, such as a debug log file.
what version of winfsp are you using?

D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64>"D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64\rclone.exe" -vv --config "D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64\.rclone.conf" sync -P --retries 1 --ignore-case --filter-from "D:\Tools\@Command Line Tools\rclone_x64\filters_Backup.txt" "D:\Backup" nounc:"\\UK-NUC-01\backup_ssd\Backup"
2020/07/25 16:15:37 DEBUG : rclone: Version "v1.52.2" starting with parameters ["D:\\Tools\\@Command Line Tools\\rclone_x64\\rclone_v1.52.2 [org].exe" "-vv" "--config" "D:\\Tools\\@Command Line Tools\\rclone_x64\\.rclone.conf" "sync" "-P" "--retries" "1" "--ignore-case" "--filter-from" "D:\\Tools\\@Command Line Tools\\rclone_x64\\filters_Backup.txt" "D:\\Backup" "nounc:\\\\UK-NUC-01\\backup_ssd\\Backup"]
2020/07/25 16:15:37 DEBUG : Using config file from "D:\\Tools\\@Command Line Tools\\rclone_x64\\.rclone.conf"
2020/07/25 16:15:37 DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "D:\\Backup" to be canonical "//?/D:/Backup"
2020/07/25 16:15:37 DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "nounc:\\\\UK-NUC-01\\backup_ssd\\Backup" to be canonical "nounc://?/UNC/UK-NUC-01/backup_ssd/Backup"
2020-07-25 16:15:37 DEBUG : Local file system at //?/UNC/UK-NUC-01/backup_ssd/Backup: Waiting for checks to finish
2020-07-25 16:15:37 DEBUG : @Grant permissions to everyone.bat: Size and modification time the same (differ by 0s, within tolerance 100ns)
2020-07-25 16:15:37 DEBUG : @Grant permissions to everyone.bat: Unchanged skipping
2020-07-25 16:15:37 DEBUG : Local file system at //?/UNC/UK-NUC-01/backup_ssd/Backup: Waiting for transfers to finish
2020-07-25 16:28:14 DEBUG : Windows_Server_2019.tbi: MD5 = d4f14e82576f51a0c5fd6b7e280d85d4 OK
2020-07-25 16:28:14 INFO  : Windows_Server_2019.tbi: Copied (new)
2020-07-25 16:28:14 DEBUG : Waiting for deletions to finish
Transferred:        6.901G / 6.901 GBytes, 100%, 9.331 MBytes/s, ETA 0s
Checks:                 1 / 1, 100%
Transferred:            1 / 1, 100%
Elapsed time:     12m37.2s
2020/07/25 16:28:14 INFO  :
Transferred:        6.901G / 6.901 GBytes, 100%, 9.331 MBytes/s, ETA 0s
Checks:                 1 / 1, 100%
Transferred:            1 / 1, 100%
Elapsed time:     12m37.2s

2020/07/25 16:28:14 DEBUG : 2 go routines active

I do not use any winfsp version.

Interesting...

Can you try increasing (or decreasing) --buffer to see if that makes a difference?

Note that rclone will be doing checksumming as it goes along, you can try turning this off with --ignore-checksum

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Thanks, ncw.

Modifying the --buffer-size doesn't help much but --ignore-checksum yields some performance.

Measurements:

    // --ignore-checksum = 52 MB/s
    // --ignore-checksum + --buffer-size 64M  = 50 MB/s
    // --ignore-checksum + --buffer-size 128M = 53 MB/s
    // --ignore-checksum + --buffer-size 256M = 55 MB/s
    // --ignore-checksum + --buffer-size 512M = 50 MB/s

Far better but it's still only the half of it what the network can handle. Could I try anything more to improve the performance?

That is really interesting that --ignore-checksum helps so much. On my linux laptop it makes almost no difference (I get about 150 MB/s for local -> local copy).

What spec is your computer?

Can you try the latest beta - to see if that improves things?

My PC has a Ryzen 7 3700x (8 core, 16 via hyperthreading) with 32 GB of RAM.
The destination machine is an Intel NUC 5i3 with 8 GB RAM.

Source and destination are both SSDs (Samsung). Source = 1 TB, ~3000 MB+ read speed, the destination is a SATA (1 TB) version with a write speed of ~500 MB+.

The latest beta is neither slower nor faster than the current release version.

OK so both source and destination are reasonably powerful machines with fast disks...

If you try copying a file from local disk to local disk with rclone, what performance do you get there? Try with and without --ignore-checksum

Ok, source is still a 1 TB NVME SSD, destination (local) now a 500 GB NVME SSD.

Without --ignore-checksum: 449 MB/s (15.7s elapsed time)
With --ignore-checksum: 2.751 GB/s (2.5s elapsed time)

Ok that is nice and fast!

So this must be something to do with the the network or samba.

It might be worth running through a samba performance tuning guide like this one

https://wiki.amahi.org/index.php?title=Make_Samba_Go_Faster&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

Thanks for the link. I've already used a tuned config but not with all of these values...

Before:

      # Performance tuning
      use sendfile = yes
      getwd cache = yes
      write cache size = 524288
      min receivefile size = 16384
      socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY

Now:

      # Performance tuning
      use sendfile = yes
      getwd cache = yes
      write cache size = 524288
      min receivefile size = 16384
      aio read size = 16384
      aio write size = 16384
      # aio write behind = true
      socket options = SO_RCVBUF=131072 SO_SNDBUF=131072 IPTOS_LOWDELAY TCP_NODELAY

Don't want to activate aio write behind...

But this leads to 76 MB/s instead of 52 MB/s before and I think I can live with this now.
Thanks again!

That is great! I think rclone could be doing IO more efficiently on Windows, but I'm not sure exactly how to improve it. On linux/macOS the IO works really quickly.

does --ignore-checksum helps with rclone serve http?

I don't think so unless you use the etag as checksum flag (forgotten exactly what that is)

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