# Nextcloud sync delete - ignore 404 error **URL:** \ **Category:** Suspected Bug\ **Created:** [January 7, 2026, 11:08am UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259 "2026-01-07T11:08:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![berbigou](https://forum.rclone.org/user_avatar/forum.rclone.org/berbigou/32/20954_2.png) [@berbigou](https://forum.rclone.org/u/berbigou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 11:08am UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259/1 "2026-01-07T11:08:36Z")
#### What is the problem you are having with rclone? (see also [Rclone should (optionally?) ignore 404 for DELETE](https://forum.rclone.org/t/rclone-should-optionally-ignore-404-for-delete/37592) , looks quite the same but for Swift, and seems solved) I rclone sync a Nextcloud WebDAV server (https:// shadowtech.eu) with a large number of files (up to 250k files). Each DELETE action (by rclone sync, not rclone delete) first fails with log “ERROR : : Couldn't delete: File with name could not be located: Sabre\DAV\Exception\NotFound: 404 Not Found”. 2nd retry with --ignore-errors solves the problem, BUT : - timeout is considerably slowing down sync progress - retry is checking again ALL the files, not only those deleted (doubling time spent from 25min to 50min) - -- retries=0 doesn’t do anything (not even a first try then no retry !) - -- retries=1 does the same as not giving this option (ie 1 try and 1 retry) Would it be possible to address this small issue, please (retries=0 should try to delete once, no more IMHO) ? #### Run the command 'rclone version' and share the full output of the command. rclone v1.60.1-DEV - os/version: debian 13.2 (64 bit) - os/kernel: 6.18.0-rc6-edge-meson64 (aarch64) - os/type: linux - os/arch: arm64 - go/version: go1.23.2 - go/linking: dynamic - go/tags: none not the latest one, but the current for armbian: ```auto uname -a Linux bpim5 6.18.0-rc6-edge-meson64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Nov 16 22:25:38 UTC 2025 aarch64 GNU/Linux apt search rclone rclone/stable,now 1.60.1+dfsg-4 arm64 [installé] rsync for commercial cloud storage ``` #### Which cloud storage system are you using? (eg Google Drive) Nextcloud managed by [https://shadow.tech/](https://shadow.tech/) #### The command you were trying to run (eg `rclone copy /tmp remote:tmp`) ````bash ran in a small subfolder with 120 files: ```sudo /usr/bin/rclone -l -P --config=/rclone.conf--checkers=12 --transfers=8 sync /media/NextCloud-sda2/NextCloud-data/data/backups/ Shadow1_crypt1:NextCloud-data/data/backups --ignore-errors -vv --log-file=log``` ```` #### The rclone config contents with secrets removed. ````auto ```[Shadow1] type = webdav url = https://drive.shadow.tech/remote.php/webdav vendor = nextcloud user = pass = [Shadow1_crypt1] type = crypt remote = Shadow1:Bpi_crypt filename_encryption = off directory_name_encryption = false password = ``` ```` #### A log from the command with the `-vv` flag ````auto head -n20 log ```2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : rclone: Version "v1.60.1-DEV" starting with parameters ["/usr/bin/rclone" "-l" "-P" "--config=/scripts_ber/root/rclone.conf" "--checkers=12" "--transfers=8" "sync" "/media/NextCloud-sdx2/NextCloud-data/data/backups/" "Shadow1_crypt1:NextCloud-data/data/backups" "--ignore-errors" "-vv" "--log-file=log"] 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "/media/NextCloud-sdx2/NextCloud-data/data/backups/" 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : Using config file from "/scripts_ber/root/rclone.conf" 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : local: detected overridden config - adding "{b6816}" suffix to name 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : fs cache: renaming cache item "/media/NextCloud-sdx2/NextCloud-data/data/backups/" to be canonical "local{b6816}:/media/NextCloud-sdx2/NextCloud-data/data/backups" 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "Shadow1_crypt1:NextCloud-data/data/backups" 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "Shadow1:Bpi_crypt/NextCloud-data/data/backups.bin" 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : found headers: 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : Creating backend with remote "Shadow1:Bpi_crypt/NextCloud-data/data/backups" 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : found headers: 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : calcardbackup-latest.rclonelink: Size and modification time the same (differ by -212.530362ms, within tolerance 1s) 2026/01/07 11:49:49 DEBUG : calcardbackup-latest.rclonelink: Unchanged skipping 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/anais=Personal.ics: Size and modification time the same (differ by -456.038175ms, within tolerance 1s) 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/bernard=Ber_25-26.webcal: Size and modification time the same (differ by -644.06068ms, within tolerance 1s) 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/anais=Personal.ics: Unchanged skipping 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/bernard=Ber_25-26.webcal: Unchanged skipping 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/bernard=Personal_DEL-CMPNTS.ics: Size and modification time the same (differ by -976.029083ms, within tolerance 1s) 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/bernard=Personal_DEL-CMPNTS.ics: Unchanged skipping 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/config.php: Size and modification time the same (differ by -265.755413ms, within tolerance 1s) 2026/01/07 11:49:50 DEBUG : calcardbackup-2026-01-07/helene=Contacts.vcf: Size and modification time the same (differ by -172.089631ms, within tolerance 1s) ...``` grep ERROR log ```2026/01/07 11:49:57 ERROR : calcardbackup-2025-12-31/bernard=Ber_25-26.webcal: Couldn't delete: File with name Bpi_crypt/NextCloud-data/data/backups/calcardbackup-2025-12-31/bernard=Ber_25-26.webcal.bin could not be located: Sabre\DAV\Exception\NotFound: 404 Not Found 2026/01/07 11:49:57 ERROR : calcardbackup-2025-12-31/nextcloud_ber.log: Couldn't delete: File with name Bpi_crypt/NextCloud-data/data/backups/calcardbackup-2025-12-31/nextcloud_ber.log.bin could not be located: Sabre\DAV\Exception\NotFound: 404 Not Found 2026/01/07 11:49:57 ERROR : calcardbackup-2025-12-31/helene=Contacts.vcf: Couldn't delete: File with name Bpi_crypt/NextCloud-data/data/backups/calcardbackup-2025-12-31/helene=Contacts.vcf.bin could not be located: Sabre\DAV\Exception\NotFound: 404 Not Found 2026/01/07 11:50:04 ERROR : Attempt 1/3 failed with 4 errors and: failed to delete 3 files 2026/01/07 11:50:05 ERROR : Attempt 2/3 succeeded``` no complete log file because post is limited in size... ```` ---
**Author:** ![asdffdsa](https://forum.rclone.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@asdffdsa](https://forum.rclone.org/u/asdffdsa)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259/2 "2026-01-07T13:29:30Z")
welcome to the forum, > [@berbigou](#): > > rclone v1.60.1-DEV that is a 3+ years old, development version from an out of date distribution repository. 1. uninstall that version 2. [https://rclone.org/install/#script-installation](https://rclone.org/install/#script-installation) 3. test again ---
**Author:** ![berbigou](https://forum.rclone.org/user_avatar/forum.rclone.org/berbigou/32/20954_2.png) [@berbigou](https://forum.rclone.org/u/berbigou)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 8:20am UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259/3 "2026-01-08T08:20:40Z")
@asdffdsa (jojothehumanmonkey) : Thank you very much !! with rclone v1.72.1 now installed, I note: - no errors on logs for 404 ERROR - now I got lot of 409 ERRORS, I will investigate - still "ERROR : Attempt 1/3 failed with 3 errors and: failed to delete 2 files" and "ERROR : Attempt 2/3 succeeded", roughly 340000 checks for 170000 files, so for 2 files, there is still 2 complete attempts whereas I used ---ignore-errors (I don’t understand “listed” field) - same amount of time (50 min instead of a 25 min without delete) than v1.60.1-DEV, so I think timeout for 404 error still use a lot of time. I still think it could be improved by not waiting for 404 error and only attempting a 2nd try on deleted files (or not if --retry=0) BUT I'm not a developer and I don't want to be the bad guy bothering the developers! I do thank you for your great job !! For Google and all people interested: as of January 2026: - Debian rclone package is outdated (see [Debian -- Package Search Results -- rclone](https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=rclone) v1.60.1+dfsg-4 instead of v1.72.1) - remove the package (apt remove rclone), use this [Install](https://rclone.org/install/#script-installation) instead - on Archlinux, extra/rclone 1.72.1-1 is newer than aur/rclone-git 1.67.0.r119.ge33436634-1 or aur/rclone-beta-bin 1.69.0\_beta.8364.69897b97f-1 Thanks ---
**Author:** ![asdffdsa](https://forum.rclone.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@asdffdsa](https://forum.rclone.org/u/asdffdsa)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259/4 "2026-01-08T13:15:31Z")
> [@berbigou](#): > > people interested [You can get an idea of how up to date or not your OS distribution's package is here](https://rclone.org/install/#package-manager) ---
**Author:** ![berbigou](https://forum.rclone.org/user_avatar/forum.rclone.org/berbigou/32/20954_2.png) [@berbigou](https://forum.rclone.org/u/berbigou)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259/5 "2026-01-10T08:38:29Z")
I must be stupid… I looked at my logs today and everything is perfect: ```auto ... 2026/01/10 04:49:54 ERROR : data/backups/calcardbackup-2026-01-02/bernard=Personal.ics: Couldn't delete: File with name Bpi_crypt/NextCloud-data/data/backups/calcardbackup-2026-01-02/bernard=Personal.ics.bin could not be located: Sabre\DAV\Exception\NotFound: 404 Not Found 2026/01/10 04:49:54 INFO : data/backups/calcardbackup-2026-01-02: Removing directory 2026/01/10 04:50:01 ERROR : Attempt 1/1 failed with 18 errors and: failed to delete 17 files 2026/01/10 04:50:01 INFO : Transferred: 777.587 MiB / 777.587 MiB, 100%, 167.854 KiB/s, ETA 0s Errors: 18 (retrying may help) Checks: 170854 / 170854, 100%, Listed 770445 Deleted: 17 (files), 1 (dirs), 35.077 MiB (freed) Transferred: 60 / 60, 100% Elapsed time: 32m7.8s 2026/01/10 04:50:01 NOTICE: Failed to sync with 18 errors: last error was: failed to delete 17 files ``` rclone v1.72.1 with “--retries=0 --ignore-errors” ran once, it took almost half the time, I must have tested the old version… Kudos to the devs ! Sorry for the inconvenience. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.rclone.org/uploads/default/original/2X/3/39ad3235f6ffec76ccd0c81616bd55697b4c300d.png) [@system](https://forum.rclone.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.rclone.org/t/nextcloud-sync-delete-ignore-404-error/53259/6 "2026-02-09T08:38:51Z")
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